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Romy the Cat
Boston, MA
Posts 10,166
Joined on 05-28-2004
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Paul, it was said not by Michelson but Mencken
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It is very interesting to hear this idiot pontificate about
turntable able reproduce element of time in music. Some years back when I
visited him, I played to him Tchaikovsky 6 symphony that he never heard, and
after listening to the 1st movement I asked him what he is thinking about the
music. he said it is nice but too many violins. then he insisted that it was
not music. I asked him: So what do you listen? he with whole seriousness play
to me a recording of some kind of space with a bunch of metal objects and
somebody with a hammer walks around them and hit those metal objects. He was
listening how those metal objects ring and told me that his favorite music. sorry,
I have zero respect to this character and I know very much it's a really cost
of all this sudo-intellectual BS that he radiate around himself. He is a quintessential audio white trash with a
good diction.
this second part about Michael Fremer is particular
interesting. I am following US a high end media approximately since 1994 and to
my memory it is probably 10th turntable that Framer “bough” directly
from manufacture which suddenly becomes the best turntable in the world. I also
personally know a guy who 17 years ago made additional $70,000 a year sailing online the
crap that big time reviewers extort from manufacturers. I know also if you
manufacturers who have very big anger to the big time reviewers who for years
and years never pay for anything. anyhow this is all charade played for public
by highly corrupted, highly unethical and the most important by highly
uninformed people. As far as I concerned screw them all, then can dive with their
pathetic secret. I did not watched further than he mentioned Framer.
There are two other subjects that I would like to bring and
to explain something to people besides just insulting the idiots who deserve to
be insulted. When's this character from Pennsylvania pontificates about idle role
versus belt he indeed makes a point. not the point that he understands because
as far as I concerned, he can hear or understand shit from the heard. Somebody
told him this stuff and he trying to trade upon it but he is very wrong. Indeed,
the idle draft have a lot of advantages over belt, but it is only in context of
light platters. The combination of motor, belt or idle roll and platters create
second order filter where mass of the platter, torque of the motor, and
intensity of the belt moderate the cue of the filter. in case of very light
motor torque, loose belt and platter over let's say 30 kilograms the system has
Q not distinguishable from first order and advantages of idle roll are
completely gone.
The last things. yes turntables, turn arms, cables, phone
stages and many other aspects make different. Yes different turntable system
produce different rhythm and to degree different musical timing, probably Framer
told to the idiot. However, the biggest difference between turntable which cost
50,000 and turntable which cost 300,000 is in reproduction of the very low
register. no single digital system can properly produce lowest actives and
their capacity we have on LP with mechanical recording is very wonderful. I
don't know what context of play back of the moron from above but from what I
remember him in the past he never had in his arsenal anything which even
remotely properly produced lower frequency. to the best of my knowledge Framer used
the latest largest Wilson and from point of view of ultimate base reproduction
it is severely compromised portal system. so, when people like Framer claims
that 500,000 turntable has better base than $100,000 turntable and he claims it
in context of playback which pretty much do not produce lower than 35 hearts
properly People should take under consideration that it is just marketing
verbiage and nothing else. to my personal preferences from a place where I stay
I would not even remotely consider to talk seriously about bass with a person
who do not use delay channels.
"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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