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In the Thread: Jonathan Weiss Introduces New High-End TT!
Post Subject: Paul, it was said not by Michelson but MenckenPosted by Romy the Cat on: 12/28/2022
It is very interesting to hear this idiot pontificate about turntable able reproduce element of time in music. Some years back when I visited him, I played to him Tchaikovsky 6 symphony that he never heard, and after listening to the 1st movement I asked him what he is thinking about the music. he said it is nice but too many violins. then he insisted that it was not music. I asked him: So what do you listen? he with whole seriousness play to me a recording of some kind of space with a bunch of metal objects and somebody with a hammer walks around them and hit those metal objects. He was listening how those metal objects ring and told me that his favorite music. sorry, I have zero respect to this character and I know very much it's a really cost of all this sudo-intellectual BS that he radiate around himself.  He is a quintessential audio white trash with a good diction.
  
this second part about Michael Fremer is particular interesting. I am following US a high end media approximately since 1994 and to my memory it is probably 10th turntable that Framer “bough” directly from manufacture which suddenly becomes the best turntable in the world. I also personally know a guy who 17 years ago made  additional $70,000 a year sailing online the crap that big time reviewers extort from manufacturers. I know also if you manufacturers who have very big anger to the big time reviewers who for years and years never pay for anything. anyhow this is all charade played for public by highly corrupted, highly unethical and the most important by highly uninformed people. As far as I concerned screw them all, then can dive with their pathetic secret. I did not watched further than he mentioned Framer.
 
There are two other subjects that I would like to bring and to explain something to people besides just insulting the idiots who deserve to be insulted. When's this character from Pennsylvania pontificates about idle role versus belt he indeed makes a point. not the point that he understands because as far as I concerned, he can hear or understand shit from the heard. Somebody told him this stuff and he trying to trade upon it but he is very wrong. Indeed, the idle draft have a lot of advantages over belt, but it is only in context of light platters. The combination of motor, belt or idle roll and platters create second order filter where mass of the platter, torque of the motor, and intensity of the belt moderate the cue of the filter. in case of very light motor torque, loose belt and platter over let's say 30 kilograms the system has Q not distinguishable from first order and advantages of idle roll are completely gone.
 
The last things. yes turntables, turn arms, cables, phone stages and many other aspects make different. Yes different turntable system produce different rhythm and to degree different musical timing, probably Framer told to the idiot. However, the biggest difference between turntable which cost 50,000 and turntable which cost 300,000 is in reproduction of the very low register. no single digital system can properly produce lowest actives and their capacity we have on LP with mechanical recording is very wonderful. I don't know what context of play back of the moron from above but from what I remember him in the past he never had in his arsenal anything which even remotely properly produced lower frequency. to the best of my knowledge Framer used the latest largest Wilson and from point of view of ultimate base reproduction it is severely compromised portal system. so, when people like Framer claims that 500,000 turntable has better base than $100,000 turntable and he claims it in context of playback which pretty much do not produce lower than 35 hearts properly People should take under consideration that it is just marketing verbiage and nothing else. to my personal preferences from a place where I stay I would not even remotely consider to talk seriously about bass with a person who do not use delay channels. 

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