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Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #17: Ok goodbye by martinshorn on 2019-02-02 
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Footnote for the record: evaluation music of the guest was the famous Manger Test CDhttp://tempuri.org/tempuri.html...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #14: Cant keep the smile now by martinshorn on 2019-02-02 
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Hi Romy I cant help but not keeping back the smile :D Come on Romy, we are grown ups, you can not be so angry only because you I don't like your speaker. It is important to stay open towards the outside world and get inspir...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #7: Throwing the dirt by martinshorn on 2019-02-01 
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Dear Romy,I feel you perceive yourself very much as enlightened and 90% of other people as low beings.You describe yourself as offering a generous helping hand from the top which is not understood due to ignorance.A true enlightenment does not judge ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #4: Bitching about the Macondo in the enemy forum by martinshorn on 2019-01-31 
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Hello Sir :) I expected your disappointed resonance already. What you write comple...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #123: Maybe i confused smth by martinshorn on 2018-08-20 
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Hi Romy I remember somewhere deep in the forum it was said, with a proper loading (cant recall what u did, feedback, or output resistance etc.. on the amp) you reached a point where the metal resonance got tamed and played better than the plastic. Se...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #121: Upper vs lower range benefits ? by martinshorn on 2018-08-20 
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Hi Romy.   Confused by your statement i flipped a few pages back and just noticed you changed / corrected your opinion along the course. So you're back to white polyester?  I have 6 different dia's in my storage, all different surrounds, but did not ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #119: Plane wave tube comparison ! by martinshorn on 2018-08-20 
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hi all. I’ve been collecting some information from a few curious people here in germany.  First of all: a plane wave tube measure of an maintained S2. Once with aluminum Diaphragma and once with the milky one.    Blue is the milky. As you can see - t...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #48: Greetings by martinshorn on 2018-06-27 
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Hi Jacky! Nice that you show up in our rednex discussion ;) I remember too. Thats a nice shot with E&S. Hope you got some response out of your show. Keep us updated about future changes. Would be very interesting whats going on behind the curtain...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #38: Quarter space by martinshorn on 2018-05-21 
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Hi Anthony,   i took ground + 1 wall. Which gives quarter space. Some may say distance to second wall is way below quarter lambda, so you could even take octa-space. But my K-horn experiences (which is 8th sp. ca...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #36: Ah ah, pressure not sound ! by martinshorn on 2018-05-20 
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Sorry Romy, dont say i said how it sounds. I did not. In fact i was just about to take back the statement of not doing better than a K-horn.   Let me put it straight. Above shows what is possible (more or less) i...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #34: Lower flux simulation by martinshorn on 2018-05-20 
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Now the same graph black...               [url=http://abload.de/image.php?img=esdsubhorn4uo9p.png][img]https://abload.de/thumb/esdsubhorn4uo9p.png[/img][/url]         ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #33: Doing the math by martinshorn on 2018-05-20 
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I digged a bit into the doubt of the sub doing 17Hz. Im using AJhorn, which has proven to be an extremely reliable forcaster in many many cases. Now, i put ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #25: Failed installation by martinshorn on 2018-05-18 
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Interesting. Also to be put in relation to the other things reported there. I came Saturday Sunday to ESD. Sunday, they welcomed me  Dai:"hey you have been here before" ....  me:"yes yes i need to see if what i heard yesterday was really that good be...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #23: Ah... by martinshorn on 2018-05-16 
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Well. That dude down my street in the esoteric shop would say "i feel negative vibration is in the air here"...Though "only positive counts" may sound very positive in the first place, it rather seems to be used for discrediting majority of opinions....

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #20: How i perceive things by martinshorn on 2018-05-15 
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Hi Romy, OK ill give you an idea: 1. The Vox Olympian. When i first visited, they played gentle music and classic. I was paralyzed by its ability to accentuate details like the touch-sound of piano solos (keys, pedal, hammer, body-borne etc). Or emot...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #18: Putting it in relation by martinshorn on 2018-05-15 
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Good morning  Xandg, i thought the same and asked, so i got forced to knock and touch, very heavy & firm. As I wrote, the gravel-filled cavity at the mouth seems to make a difference.  Anthony, thats the rooms yes :) It looks redicolous on the pi...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #13: Finally - the sound by martinshorn on 2018-05-14 
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Well what was special in the sound?In general it was very good - my favorite of the whole exhibition, 3 days, and many dozens of the best commercial installations of this planet. All the big usual stuff - you name it.Now, the dry base meant to me: it...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #12: Amps, electronics and voicings by martinshorn on 2018-05-14 
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So what was next...They build the DAC, patented the clock... ok.They build their own preamp. Fully descrete class-a balanced, john curl wouldnt do it differently. Nice. Low and adjustable gain - very nice. Constant impedance step attenuator - my favo...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #11: Yes just hi tech by martinshorn on 2018-05-14 
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Hi Paul. Dont get me wrong, i dont want to sound like advertising it. Yet they made me excited with their approach and achievement. So I cant prevent sharing a little. Of course investing huge effort & ressources wont guarantee amazing results. L...

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Hi Romy  No offense, i really meant we all have our prejudice due to experience.  I dono the RCA but i think the old ones didnt have slits or?You can actually see it leaning towards the screen here on that explosion-drawing how its built.Look at the ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #6: Beryllium and inversed phase plug by martinshorn on 2018-05-14 
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Something they mustve obviously done better than others using beryllium. Judging the sound. In a positive way. The lower 3 are titanium, but all upper 3 are 4/3/2 inch BE sourced from truextend. The suspensenion however is soft and allows excursion.I...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #5: Field coil with feedback by martinshorn on 2018-05-14 
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It was honestly like "oh a big horn, gotta listen .... nice, who did that, hello, how did you..." .... "lets go outside for a talk". I actually thought to the last moment that they were japenese. Coz majority of eastish industry is, and me as western...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #4: The horn design from Bruce Edgar by martinshorn on 2018-05-14 
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So first in line, the horns.  They stressed out that particularly the horn flares where not within the comfort zone of their own developer team.That triggered the recruitment of Bruce Edgar. The design is only his, and they took it 1:1. Of course too...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #3: Prejudice vs experience... by martinshorn on 2018-05-14 
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Hi Romy Indeed you sound a little racist, but i think we all have our prejudice.  Funny enough, i didnt recognize nor cared, spotted the horn with my eyes, went in and listened.Now, read this carefully: I listened to the system with closed eyes, for ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #1: New superlative horn build - ESD acoustic by martinshorn on 2018-05-14 
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Hi guysI just spotted something breathtaking yesterday:http://www.esdacoustics.com/ Ive been actually listening to it this weekend on the exhibition.Trying to sort my thoughts.I had many many hours of intense listening.Also plenty of time with the en...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #30: Almost got them all by martinshorn on 2018-03-28 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Goto SG-370DX measurement in Audio For Dummies ™  30 Replies 
Actually.... searching very hard the web, you can find this:   SG370 dia from inside: http://tempuri.org/tempuri.html  -  Measures you just provided   SG146 Measures were here already (just questionable reliability) : http://tempuri.org/tempuri.html ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #29: Learn to read by martinshorn on 2018-03-20 
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ah come on guys. Measures have to be understood properly. U can’t judge every tiny pixel. And also you cant say a tilt here will sound bright or dull, coz your room can change this. Ok. Doesn’t mean everything is upside down either. Doesn’t mean, if ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #25: Lets focus on the measures by martinshorn on 2018-03-19 
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Come on guys, initial topic was the Goto measures. This is rare, you find max a few useless fragments, nothing serious. So getting back on track, the SG 16xx, 37xx, 500s etc etc please post the measures! Exciting, rare, appreciated! Youll generate th...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #23: Not so easy to differentiate by martinshorn on 2018-03-17 
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Hi Daniel, sorry yes i misunderstood you. But reading a bit what you guys mean... i must say Klaus' System encourages both in one. Exactly those words of like a cloud, alive, not from speakers, then his system is the first thing coming to my mind. Un...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #21: Like live by martinshorn on 2018-03-17 
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Daniel, seeing your words describing needs for live sound, i seriously recommend to copy Klaus Speth' System in a first instance. You can go further after that. But that thing had it all, what anyone needs to feel the art become alive. I can ensure i...
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