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[quote user="noviygera"] Vasyachkin, if this is still relevant:I've tried dipole bass and dipole mids with horns mid/highs in my system. If anything, dipole works the WORST for the bass and here's why:It does not load the room with bass pressure (or ...
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[quote user="Vasyachkin"]has anybody tried a horn speaker with a dipole bass section ?[/quote]Well, I must say that I have tried dipole bass in a few configurations, including dipole bass plus horn, however I think this is completely immaterial to th...
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Vasyachkin, if this is still relevant:I've tried dipole bass and dipole mids with horns mid/highs in my system. If anything, dipole works the WORST for the bass and here's why:It does not load the room with bass pressure (or bass sound). ...
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Vasyachkin, if this is still relevant:I've tried dipole bass and dipole mids with horns mid/highs in my system. If anything, dipole works the WORST for the bass and here's why:It does not load the room with bass pressure (or bass sound). ...
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[quote user="Vasyachkin"]has anybody tried a horn speaker with a dipole bass section ?[/quote]Well, I must say that I have tried dipole bass in a few configurations, including dipole bass plus horn, however I think this is completely immaterial to th...
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[quote user="noviygera"] Vasyachkin, if this is still relevant:I've tried dipole bass and dipole mids with horns mid/highs in my system. If anything, dipole works the WORST for the bass and here's why:It does not load the room with bass pressure (or ...
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Interesting take on the Altec 820. No way can this be done for 20k. Looks like dipole bass with some attenuation for mid frequencies.Wolf von Langa has a faintly similar take on the Altec 820: [url]http://www.holgerbarske.com/allgemein/fremderregt/#c...
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Conventional string instruments are a special form of Helmholz resonators not dipoles! The strings that are supported at two ends in free air are mostly "audible" as articulation. The resonating top of the instrument, the bridge and the specific encl...
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I think you took slightly wrong in my comments that life acoustic bass is dipole. It is absolutely not dipole. In context of listening space it is what we call an objects single point source, where geometrical dimension of radiating surface...
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Woofers with rubber surrounds tend to have boomy bass. While accordian surrounds seem to have much tighter bass and more accurate sound reproduction. So adding more then one woofer to an enclosure would make the problem 2 fold. It would be much bette...
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Romy, Can you expand a little more on what the issue with dipole bass is and what it does incorrectly? I'm still not sure I know exactly what you mean (and I've had a look at some of your other comments on the site).What sonic aspects in particular? ...
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Romy, i hope this post doesn't offend your sensibilities. I am not gonna say a word about the physics principles that have led me to the conclusion that this is something that should be tried ( unless you ask of course ).
The idea i have is...
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I do not exactly understand what you are proposing at DiyAudio site. I have generally an attitude against dipole radiation, and particularly in bass. There is a common believe among audio people that dipole bass has advances, there was a lot of said ...
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Edger, I have fixed the link you reported with my kids playing. I also refuse to comment anything about the Dunnoy. It was such a monumental fiasco on my part that I still cannot interpret what it was. You do not understand what amount of physical a...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]I do not exactly understand what you are proposing at DiyAudio site.[/quote]i can't log in to Diy Audio so i can't view the attached image ( diagram ) files there - can you view them ? without diagrams it would be really h...
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I think you took slightly wrong in my comments that life acoustic bass is dipole. It is absolutely not dipole. In context of listening space it is what we call an objects single point source, where geometrical dimension of radiating surface...
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Richard, I absolutely agree with you that dipole provides a masking affect from many problems but along with illumination of the badly reproduced bass dipoles inject into music a common denominator of… dipolenisness….. and this something that ...
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Vasyachkin, to say honestly I do not think too much about dipole bass. What I head sounded unacceptable and it was unacceptable not by specific implementation but buy some common character that was characteristic to all dipoles I head. Loose up some...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]Vasyachkin, to say honestly I do not think too much about dipole bass. What I head sounded unacceptable and it was unacceptable not by specific implementation but buy some common character that was characteristic to all dip...
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[quote user="Rewind"]Hi, I am slowly building my own Macondo. I understand why the injection channel is there. It brings some kind of softness that the compression drivers lack. [/quote] OK, but it is not how I feel about the service of injection...
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Good summary, Markus, I would add a few more reasons but what is the point. The key is that bass from back loaded horns is dipole by nature or has a large dipole region. The back loaded horns produce bass similar in behavior of Sun during winter:...
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Hi,I am slowly building my own Macondo. I understand why the injection channel is there. It brings some kind of softness that the compression drivers lack. I am using a 12" JBL midbass driver (~100dB sensitivity) in a 50L single driver Marshall cabin...
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Howdy Romy and all. It's a pleasure to visiting the site again, AND again I found myself flabergasted by the words coming out of your mouth Romy! Now dipole bass! What would the cat of 15 years ago say to the cat now?!?I make fun but I too have had g...
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[quote user="Vasyachkin"]the only real questionable aspect here is adding a second set of back firing, inverted phase horns. mathematically speaking it is what the design "needs" but of course the real question is - what does it sound like ? that's...
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Woofers with rubber surrounds tend to have boomy bass. While accordian surrounds seem to have much tighter bass and more accurate sound reproduction. So adding more then one woofer to an enclosure would make the problem 2 fold. It would be much bette...
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Romy, Can you expand a little more on what the issue with dipole bass is and what it does incorrectly? I'm still not sure I know exactly what you mean (and I've had a look at some of your other comments on the site).What sonic aspects in particular? ...
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Well, I would like to leave on conical subject aside of the scope of current thread and to stay here with my corner horn bass. When I talk about my corner corn as a dipole operated bass enclosure I of course recognize that it is not ta truly a dipol...
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.... in home systems for Room correction and general system EQFolks,This is from my own Yahoo group, but may be of interest here....Since writing this I have in fact changed my speakers to dipoles and do not currently use a PADEQ (it will return thou...
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moreart,It is the theory that you feel comfortable with but I am not. If you compare a radiation from a single 40Hz transducer and a dipole 40Hz transducer then you will recognize the differences. Also, you look at the 40Hz but I ma talking about a ...
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Hi all,In my experience it is VERY hard to get anything resembling realistic bass from a vented box, particularly with a Q of around 0.9 or 1. There is too much stored energy in the system and too much overhang. The best bass I have heard...
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