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03-06-2007 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Chirag
New York
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Post #: 41
Post ID: 3913
Reply to: 3906
LimitedGold and DryDMT
Hi Cat,

 Romy the Cat wrote:

I used my typical “flash” techniques and discovered some leeks in that 50 years old enclosure. Sure it the leaks were there then it would be no “acoustic suspensions” and the driver would run further. So, fixed the box with the liquid wood and the problem with the Red’s “sinking” is gone.


Leaks were way more present in my enclosure...I also thought the general quality of the wood was too soft and much too audible for my tastes.  The resonances spoke over the music.

 Romy the Cat wrote:

The dynamics is an extra subject. The HF driver does surprisingly OK in terms of dynamic. The LF driver is another story. The Reds in a right “untreated” box do their typical “primary resonance spreading” and it certainly do not give an impression of dynamics in the terms as we use to…

Agreed completely.  You know, it was the high driver that actually masked some of my initial dynamics needs.  It did not take long to realize the high driver was much better dynamically than the woofer, but I fell into, and still do, loving the speaker for its ~400hz to ~5k area.

 Romy the Cat wrote:

BTW, it is interesting that you find the Golds and DMT's tonally challenged compare to Reds. Can you elaborate on it? The Golds need >150W to drive them….

150w!  My goodness...thats beastly.  The most I got on either of them was fairly friendly but room temp increasing 60W Pass labs and a mechanical Bel Canto (120w?) class D amp.  The golds did OK and similarly to the Reds, but they did need more power than the reds for dynamics.  Tonally, even if they could handle the higher powers, had more constricted tonality in relation to the dynamics.  It was like talking louder but using a bad capacitor in the line and low volume compressor at the same time.  Considering the 89-90db of the little golds, i can see why 150 could be a reasonable number.

The DMT's - I only know the 15 - are an oddball to me at this point.  Their tonality occasionally approaches barbaric with poorly recorded material, but the ease of the dynamics are really nice.  I would actually say the big driver is much better than the gold, but the highs are not nearly as lovely as the reds.  The box as well is front ported bass reflex which really takes away from a lot.  I have not played with these enough to really comment too much on what can be done with them, but they do need slightly friendlier sounding class a solid state amplification to work properly.

Best,
Chirag
10-09-2007 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
samuel33
Posts 25
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Post #: 42
Post ID: 5571
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Pieces of stuffs
Can you explain Roomy your points ?

Because you say all the time what should be an intresting path but you never tell why.

Why high efficiency mid driver would be an improvement? why higher effeciency would increase the sound quality?

Can you develop, because reading you saying X or Z is great without developing is quite boring. Are you here to develop ideas ? you never finish what you start to say....you just throw couple of ideas and after you make a post on another subject and again and again... I have a deep feeling of emptiness after reading your statements : even a 14 years old pupils have a more constructed way of arguing than you. Sorry but it'is so annoying ... at first i thought that you create your website to share, ok your very funny when you criticize other manufacturer but there is a deep lack of consistency.on the other side...and i regret it.

Which concept of electrodynamic speaker have you in mind ?
10-10-2007 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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I wish you good luck.
 samuel33 wrote:
Can you explain Roomy your points ?

Because you say all the time what should be an intresting path but you never tell why.

Why high efficiency mid driver would be an improvement? why higher effeciency would increase the sound quality?

Can you develop, because reading you saying X or Z is great without developing is quite boring. Are you here to develop ideas ? you never finish what you start to say....you just throw couple of ideas and after you make a post on another subject and again and again... I have a deep feeling of emptiness after reading your statements : even a 14 years old pupils have a more constructed way of arguing than you. Sorry but it'is so annoying ... at first i thought that you create your website to share, ok your very funny when you criticize other manufacturer but there is a deep lack of consistency.on the other side...and i regret it.

Which concept of electrodynamic speaker have you in mind ?
Samuel,

I understand your frustrations and I am glad that you have them. It means that soon or later you will understand that it is too early for you to read/post at this site and you will move on.

I never expressed any interest to be understood by a lowest common denominator of interests. Generality the appreciation of what is doing on around here requires to do some homework of own mind, if you know what I mean. If you have a “deep feeling of emptiness” after reading my statements then you might try do not read them and then you will stay filled with a great joy of fullness. Reading near two dozens of your post I have seen that “fullness”.

Anyhow, let do not convert it in a discussion WHY you see “no consistency”.  It is what it is and I wish you good luck in your quest for a better audio.

Rgs,
Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
10-10-2007 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
samuel33
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Post #: 44
Post ID: 5573
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You're so fake.
You know romi what is well understand can be expressed easely.

It is strange that the most philosophical ideas can be easely expressed and understand  albeit their complexity....but your statments can NOT (hum hum)

Are you developing a king of religion ? "god knows better"

Nevermind you escape each time precise questions are asked, and this time again.

The question were simple but you took the time not to answer them but to tell that most of people have not the knowledge enough to be understand by you (muhahahaha, sorry....).

Please if it is to avoid my question DON'T respond, Run forest Run ! instead open a new subject, do 2 posts of emptiness where you throw that you have understand somthing and -very important- don't argue because if you do that, maybe people can realize that you are a fake.

Sam.
08-29-2008 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


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Post #: 45
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The Celestion SL-600’s tweeters

 Romy the Cat wrote:
...To substitute SL600 original tweeter with anything else, would it be Revelators, Diamond or made from Faberge Eggs is like to make a movie with Humphrey Bogart and ask busboy form a nearby Chinese restaurant to re-record the Bogart’s dialogs. The SL600 tweeter with pure copper dome and phenolic suspension was probably the most perfect tweeter even was made (sonically), with only disadvantage in sensitively department.

I use the SL-600 as my summer monitor, driving it with 100W A/B amp and I do like it all around balance, size and many other factors.  The SL-600 has beautiful cupper tweeters, phenomenal in my view but the circumstances of my habits made me to look somewhere else. The SL-600 has second-order 12dB/octave slope at 2.3kHz but…. the SL-600 has sensitive in low 80s and I'm keep destroying those tweeters. I have burned 6 of them. Not truly burned but afar a few months/weeks/days of use I hear that the tweeters got changed and do not sound as good as initially. I understand that my barbaric Macondo-spoiled habits with high dynamic range are to blame and I do admit that I drive the SL-600 much harder that I shell. But it is what it is and I am not willing to moderate my listening habits.

Here is the question. The SL-600 is old speaker and many people might went over the same dilemma. So, is any tweeter out there that would work well with SL-600, would not require a lot of modification and would tolerate abuse well? I am not intend to make long experiments and rather am looking for a plug-and-play solution. I am sure somebody out there, and most likely the Brits, have already off a shelf solution.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-01-2008 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


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Post #: 46
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Hm, unexpectedly interesting…
Here is what I substitute the Celestion original copper. It is Linaeum Lweeter modified by Bud Purvine from Seattle. I do appreciate the Celestion copper tweeter more – when it is new and works properly, but I have no copper tweeters anymore. The Linaeum’s film tweeter does quote OK so far. The Celestion woofer is 82dB sensitive; the Linaeum’s tweeter is 81.5dB. I still roll of the Linaeum for a few dB – I did not measure anything - I do not want to invest efforts into it. It is under no implication to have the “perfect sound” but it is not bad, much better then the sound of the Celestion’s overheated tweeter. The Celestion’s own tweeter is disconnected.

The caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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manisandher
London
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Resurrecting my SL600 speakers
Hi all,

This thread has been a facinating read for me, and has prompted me to resurrect my old Celestion SL600 speakers.

But their copper dome tweeters are looking (and sounding) rather worse for wear.

Does anyone know where I could source them from?

Any help you could provide would be really appreciated.

Mani.
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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The atheism in Audio.
 manisandher wrote:
Hi all, This thread has been a facinating read for me, and has prompted me to resurrect my old Celestion SL600 speakers. But their copper dome tweeters are looking (and sounding) rather worse for wear. Does anyone know where I could source them from? Any help you could provide would be really appreciated. Mani.
I do not know where to get the original copper dome tweeters. The later production of SL600 and SL700 used a white tweeters (I presume they were aluminum) and they were not as interesting sonically as the soft-sounding copper tweeters. I was getting the copper dome tweeters from buying the SL6- the cheaper wooden version of SL600. If they are in fair condition then you can get then for around $300, that makes $150 – expensive but worth it. It worth is then were useable tweet but in my case they tune to “Autumn sound” very fast. So, I got sick from it and moved on. Still, I feel the “new” SL600 copper dome tweeters are fantastic tweeters – very non-abusive and very laconic. They need a LOT of very good power, preferably in class A to sound the best and then will not last long with a lot of power. Well, it proves that God does not exist in audio.

The caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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manisandher
London
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Post #: 49
Post ID: 8362
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God is in the wire

Thanks for the advice Romy.

But actually, I may not need new tweeters after all (for the time being, at least, until the dreaded 'Autumn Sound' arrives).

You see, when I connected them up, I didn't really think too carefully about the speaker wires I used and connected them to the amp (an old Plinius 8150 integrated I had knocking around) with 'bell wire' - the only stuff I had lying around at the time. Not surprisingly, they sounded awful.

But having replaced the 'bell wire' with thicker cable (just cheap multi-stranded copper stuff), they sound much more believable.

I take your point about the quality of the amp driving them. I think the Plinius is a pretty good amp. The only other one I have stored away is an old Pass Aleph 4. I might try this one at some point and let you know how I go.

What were your experiences with SL600/cable combinations -any insights you could share?

On a slightly different note, I was talking to a 'high-end' dealer over the phone about a certain pre/power amp combo (retailing for around £10K here in the UK). When I mentioned that I was looking to use it to drive my old SL600 speakers, I could hear the 'disgust' in his voice. He was adamant that I would need a pair of speakers substantially 'better' than the SL600s, costing at least £7K, to match this pre/power combo. To his credit, he did say to bring the SL600s in and compare them to a £7K pair he stocks. And I probably will. But unless they're IB with 1st order XOs, I doubt I'll be satisfied.

Any thoughts on why dealers think a pair of speakers should cost the same as an amplifier in order to be a good match?

Mani.

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manisandher
London
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Post #: 50
Post ID: 8385
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Valve amp virgin
 Romy the Cat wrote:

They need a LOT of very good power, preferably in class A to sound the best and then will not last long with a lot of power.
The caT

Hi,

I'd like to try driving my SL600 speakers with a valve amp. Does anyone have any advice for a valve amp virgin like myself?

I've never owned a valve amp before and have really only ever listened to one in my life. There was something about the sound that I really liked... I just couldn't put my finger on it...

I'm very comfortable with SS amps (my own journey has taken me through class A/B, A and now D). But I feel completely lost when considering valve amps - it just seems like a complete mine field out there. Where should I start?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Mani.
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manisandher
London
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Post #: 51
Post ID: 12144
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Amplifier for SL600s
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For anyone who's interested, I run my SL600s with a Rotel RHB-10 power amp, very successfully, I think. I tried them with a number of SS amps, and none of them did the job quite like the Rotel.

(I did buy a tube/valve amp for my main system though - a Berning Siegfried 300B... from Merlin!)

Mani.
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Romy the Cat


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Do not use your tube amps with SL600!
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Do not even try your tube amps with SL600!

The SL600 is very low sensitivity and if you drive it with more or less powerful SET amp then you will ruin SL600. I have destroyed 6 (six) of SL600. A 5 minutes  of driving SL600 with 8W-10W SET as reasonably high volume and you will never get proper HF from SL600.

What happens is that low power SET will unavoidably clip driving this type of load. Even if some people can’t hear the negative auditable consequence of clipping but the act of clipping itself creates a huge amount of HF harmonics (over auditable range). Some tweeter and crossover can hold it but the SL600 can’t. No, you will not burn you tweeter but you will overheat it once and then the speaker will always gave a very idiosyncratically -bad HF.

What you drive SL600 then stay above 80-100W into 8R. If you drive SL600 with an amp over 2W and sub 50W then NEVER make SL600 to play loud.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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manisandher
London
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Post #: 53
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No tubes SL600s
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No, I wouldn't dream of driving my SL600s with the Berning. My understanding is that with their low sensitivity and lowish impedance, the SL600s need current. The Rotel is capable of delivering 150A into 0.1R (for short 10 microsec bursts), and seems to drive them very well. (I picked up an absolute mint condition RHB-10 for around $1200.)

I will be using the Berning to drive a pair of Zu Druids >150Hz or so, which I'm hoping to set up in the next few weeks. But I can't help thinking that I'll go for DSET and 3-way horns >150Hz eventually... Having moved into a new house, I now feel I have the room for this.

Mani.
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Romy the Cat


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The Zu Druids monitors.
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It is interning that Zu Druids was mentioned in context of this thread. I have a local guy what lives a few blocks away have Zu Druids and I happened heard them quite a few times. They have reported 101dB sensitivity and more or less high impedance but I would not feel that they are too much SET friendly. I fill that SET level of power makes Zu Druids a bit sluggish and they need rather 50-60 Watt.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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manisandher
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Zu Druid and SET
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Yes, I totally agree. In my old place, I had the Druids working in FR with the Berning Siegfried 300B, and they sounded exactly as you say.

But I'm hoping that the Berning will cope better driving the Druids with a high-pass filter set to around 150Hz (using my Pass XVR1 x-overs). I'll be able to try this in the next few weeks.

As I alluded to before, I'm at risk of becoming a DSET convert - it's all very well having a nice low-powered amp, but what the hell do you use with it? Are there any decent high-sensitivity FR speakers out there? Or is this simply physically impossible?

Mani.
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Romy the Cat


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Post #: 56
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The misleading about the Zu Druids’ SET friendliness.
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 manisandher wrote:
As I alluded to before, I'm at risk of becoming a DSET convert - it's all very well having a nice low-powered amp, but what the hell do you use with it? Are there any decent high-sensitivity FR speakers out there? Or is this simply physically impossible?

I do not know. My local guy told me initially that Zu Druids are 110dB sensitive and high impedance. Hearing it I lent to him my full-range Melquiades to try. He has a few other PP and SET amps, so I thought with 110dB sensitivity and high impedance my no-feedback Milq will be running the show. He kind of liked Milq initially but what he reported was not what I expected and it in my view it was confusing.  Another day I visited him; we did some changes in Zu Druids (more need to be done) and tried a few different amps. It was clear the Milq was not the best candidate as it was dynamically straggling to drive Zu Druids. He has some kind of 30-40W tube PP that did much better job. That made me to do only and to learn that Zu Druids are 101dB. In really it might be even less as those hi-fi companies lie for am few dB and it become a common practice. Furthermore in LF the Zu Druids have perhaps 90dB efficiency as then use port and what the port begin to become affective the no-feedback SET would die.

I still, can’t figure out Zu Druids. I would heavily highpass it to use with SET or drive it with 50W SET, preferably with feedback. Something the level of Lamm ML1 might be a good candidate for them to try. If you look out there then you will see anybody promote Zu Druids as some kind of wonder that might be perfectly used with flea-power amp. This is why people attracted to them I guess. However, I do feel that it is a bit stupidity to promote Zu Druids as a SET friendly loudspeaker. It might be a good speaker for the money but not for use with SET. In 2006-07 the industry whores created a lot of hype about Zu Druids. I do not know if it was worthy or not but I know that fact that they were pushed as “$3000 solution that can be driven by SET full-range“ was very inaccurate.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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manisandher
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High-passing the Druids
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
I still, can’t figure out Zu Druids. I would heavily highpass it to use with SET...
Do you think 150Hz is too low with a 7W SET?

In all honesty, I think I was heavily influenced by the Zu Druid 'hype' myself. I had bought the Berning (without really thinking too much, really - it seemed like a good idea at the time!) and was then stumped as to what to use with it. I didn't have space for horns (although I do now), and the Druids seemed, from what I had read, to fit the bill.

But now that I've got the Berning and the Druids, I feel obliged to at least try making them work together...

Mani
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Romy the Cat


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In your case it is hard to predict anything.
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 manisandher wrote:
Do you think 150Hz is too low with a 7W SET?

In all honesty, I think I was heavily influenced by the Zu Druid 'hype' myself. I had bought the Berning (without really thinking too much, really - it seemed like a good idea at the time!) and was then stumped as to what to use with it. I didn't have space for horns (although I do now), and the Druids seemed, from what I had read, to fit the bill.

But now that I've got the Berning and the Druids, I feel obliged to at least try making them work together...

I do know, Mani, it is hard to say. My crossover strategy is not to cross where is it necessary from logical point of view but where it necessary from sonic point of view. In practical terms it means that you need to look at the quality of you complimentary upperbass section and to listen what acoustic system and amplification cases the octaves of your interest better. Also, you have that freaky Berning  Siegfried. I mean “freaky” because it is not a regular amp that is more or less predictable to a degree but Mr. Berning‘s own OTL switching creation. It is god or bad – it is know only for the people who use it – and it is much unknown to me how it behaves driving the Zu Druid’s port. I have local guy with Berning  amp but he has a conventional  non- freaky Berning. In your case it is hard to predict anything.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Druid's & Frankenstein
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I have the Zu Druid's which Romy has referred to. I purchased the speaker's based on the presumption that their high sensitivity and impedance would be perfect to run SET amps.  After having read the great success Arthur Salvatore had running the Frankenstein 8W SET amps with Israel Blume's full range speakers I thought it would be an excellent match.  Initially the combination worked out well.  When playing music that was not dynamically challenging the combination was quite satisfying.  However when I played large scale symphonic music the underpinnings of the orchestra was missing and I felt the amps were struggling to perform.

I was curious how more power would affect the performance.  An opportunity became available for me to purchase David Bernings EA-230 stereo amplifier at a modest price.  It is rated as a 30W triode amp. A friend who is very familiar with David Bernings amps provided a box of NOS tubes to roll in place of the stock Yugoslavian tubes.  The new tubes provided a quite audible improvement in all parameters.

The extra power from the Berning made a noticeable difference in performance.  What was surprising was that this push/pull amp was not very far behind the SET in transparency actually they were very close.  This was extremely puzzling to me.  I expected that the extra power would allow large scale orchestral music from clipping or distorting but I did not expect that a amplifier made and designed in the early 1980's would perform this well in comparison to the 8W SET.  This seems to run against the "established" way of thinking.

Currently I have both amps set up in my system which allows easy switching between the two.  I have not been able to settle on one amp over the other.  On certain music I like the Frankenstein amps on other music I like the Berning.  Switching between the two amps provides me quite satisfying musical enjoyment that I have not experienced in a long time.  However I would like to have an amplifier that provides the best characteristics of both amps to completely eliminate switching between the two.

My opinion is that the Zu Druids can be quite satisfying speakers if they are given the proper amplification.  I agree with Romy that the specifications and hubbub that the speakers are SET friendly is stretching things a bit.  I will be interested in pursuing the suggestion to "heavily highpass" the speakers.  If this makes them more compatible with my current amps it would be a win win situation.

Rgs,

montepilot


"It's like an act of murder; you play with the intent to commit something"--Duke Ellington
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manisandher
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Sealing the Druid's port
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OK, I see.

Actually, I was planning on using the Druids with their ports sealed. Bad idea?

FWIW, I have a pair of Wilson Benesch Chimera speakers (the UK-based manufacturer, not to be confused with the 'famous' US one) that I'm hoping to use for upper and lower bass duties, i.e. disgarding the HF driver (and the built-in passive x-overs). I've just got a feeling that the ABR-loaded upper chamber might work very well from 70-150Hz or so. I intend to block the downward firing ports of the lower chamber, and push these drivers 'hard' <70Hz.

The Chimeras have average sensitivity, so I'll use the amplifiers that I currently have knocking around - a Pass Aleph 4 for upperbass and a couple of Hypex class D amps for the lowerbass.

Hopefully, I'll manage to get something half-coherent coming out of this hodgepodge. If not, DSETs and horns will be on the agenda sooner rather than later.

Mani.

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