| Romy the Cat wrote:|
|David, that is funny that you are stressing my SX8000 or even mention it, if you ever invest the effort to read the site, or at least the thread then you would understand how out of context your manner. The AF1/Micro is kind of irrelevant, this thread mention many different turntables and from a completely different perspective. Why you got defensive about the comment of AF1 value is beyond me...... is a surprise to me. |
It is the simple Marketing mechanism:
1. The most hated Hifi owner in the world (seen from the side of Manufacturers, reviewers ...) wrote a remarkable Article about the foolishness of the analog people (99,5 of the reviewers, manufacturers, owners, Big Spenders, Distributors on this planet hate him deeply for that)
2. That guy uses an old Seiki 8000 and writes, he can live with it because it isn't the usual ultra bullshit which is normally served as "Reference"
3. No one can write anything against it, because that table is simply too rare or / when you want one, it needs time, work, money to get one
After 25 years this is History... now we can :-)
now "we" can tell that guy and his followers with the longest middle finger on this audiophile planet that he is no longer in the position to show his analog middle finger to anyone...when he wants to continue that, he needs that AF-1......
Some of those Seiki people are back and they offer the new Seiki (in reality it is the King's new clothes, but who cares), of course "in modern" Design with the pricing of today to show the world that something serious is now available, the TechDas AF1 (in detail a Seiki 8000 II but a modern motor management)
And now we can write to that owner who believes nothing that this "new" unit deserves all the praises the world can deliver ...blubber..
Ok, why not
From here we are at the same starting point we have with every new unit which is ready to show its real performance
- Goldmund Reference was such one ( missed sonic target by a mile based on its awful T3F Arm)
- Rockports (missed sonic target by a mile based on its awful Arm and awful platter electronics and their Arm make EVERY cartridge sound thin, analytic, dead, lifeless and ultra boring, same call it "detailed :-) )
- Seiki 8000 II (the vacuum destroys the sonic potential which the table can deliver without that option ---> Seiki 8000 is better from sonics)
- Continuum whatever (too complicated and the sound - when they work - is ok, but it is more or less in the area of Basis Debut vacuum which is MUCH cheaper and more reliable ...so what ????...)
- Thorens Reference (looks very impressive but from sonics it is weak)
- or the lastest toys in Europe ---Studio units---sold for a penny and now they are hyped as ultimate machines (All EMT's, Garrards or Technics Sp10 MK whatever...) no one from those guys has any idea about their background at their time and when you tell them, they don't want to hear it....they are like children with their beloved toys...
- and so on and on and on and on and on ... it is like a record with a scratch
I listened to all of them, in private Systems and I can seriously guarantee you one FACT:
None of these owners bought it because they can hear a difference, they are absolutely not interested in that and they have absolutely no idea about it!!
They bought it as a toy and to get a position in an audiophile community as a well respected, "experienced Audiophile".
And when someone shows them why their bellowed unit is weak in some areas, not one of them say "thank you for stretching my horizon", their first reaction is always negative because their "position" is no longer on the top.... they have no problem when you tell them that a better unit is 50k more, they buy it at once.....but they have a serious problem when you show them that a 15k table beats their 100k unit in 5s....
The article from Romy about analog people is still valid.