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In the Forum: Analog Playback
In the Thread: Ultimate Turntable
Post Subject: ???????Posted by dkarmeli on: 5/9/2014
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
 dkarmeli wrote:
What I called mental masturbation was the pretense to design of the ultimate turntable, not the musical experience or sound!
Well, neither you, nor me, nor anybody else at this site, nor anybody else who design turntable professionally, including your AF1 maker, have anything to do with designing musical experiences or sound. If you do not see any interest to collaborate with other, or with yourself, what might constitute ultimate turntable then you have no interest, or ability, for collaboration. 

I seriously have no idea wtf you're talking about Pussy. I replied to a review on AF1 that was emailed to me from you site, and I wouldn't have replied if I knew that the post had nothing to do with AF1. I'm wondering if you're actually trying to build a functioning turntable or is it just mental masturbation like the theoretical symphonies you used to write in your head. Either way, as you mentioned. I have neither the engineering  knowledge nor any interest in it.
As far as Nishikawa san, AF1/Micro Seiki designer or Vladimir with his electronics go neither one claims to be designing musical experience, that's the musician's and composer's job. What they give you is a tool of a certain quality and characteristic to use. How you use it, for what purpose or even iif you use has nothing to with them, the user creates the personal experience.
 Romy the Cat wrote:

 dkarmeli wrote:
Do you have a system that gives you that emotional connection? If you do I can send you my Linn and you can see it for yourself when you exchange it for your SX-8000.
I think the whole “ emotional connection” paradigm is a Madison Avenue’s shrinks metaphor. 

You can't talk for me as I can't for you! We've known each other long enough to recognize that we can both hear the same things but our end game and goals regarding home audio and sound reproduction have always been different. I had my ultimate tt 15 years ago and my ultimate system 12 years ago. I told this back then and nothing has changed since. Yes, I have more gear since then and definitely superior in many ways but none that I really care about. Yes, like all the other gear heads here gear turns me on but sonically my sole aim was always as you put it, the "Madison Avenue's shrink's metaphor". The tools we're talking about helped get me there and keep me there!
 Romy the Cat wrote:
If I do have any “ emotional connection” then I very much assure you that it has nothing to do with my turntable, with turntable topology or with anything else superficial.

If that's really what you believe then let me start by swapping out your SX-8000 with a Clearaudio table, complete with arm and cartridge and then your electronics with MBL or Burmeisters! 
david

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