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Romy the Cat


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It looks like I will have my listening room for a while.
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I was not suicidal and was not truly upset but I did feel that I very much might lose something and never recover it. As we hook up with Kitty she was Dana-Farber physician and was moving to work to a regional hospital in south New Hampshire.  Naturally driving far she was thinking about moving to New Hampshire and I am not enthusiastically supported her. She told me that at new place I can build another listening room, thankfully in NH we can get a lot of space for the money. I was saying “of course” but I was not sure if I will be able to render the same listening room twice. My current listening room with the clandestine horns is an elegant design inspiration and I down that I will be able to pull that off again. Of course Amy is more important then horns, so I kind of mentally was preparing that my audio fun will not last long.

Well, what do you know? It turning out that Amy does not like her hospital anymore (they are in fact are Morons) and she is planning move back to Dana-Farber in Boston.  That is peaty much open an opportunity for us for many more years to live here, in the pool and under the horns. I hate to sound egotistically but I am kind of happy. The people who did not go over it and particularly not audio people have no idea how much labor of love made our listening rooms and I do not think that I will be able to do it again.
 


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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WMD in house.
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
 Romy the Cat wrote:
This mooring a brilliant idea hit me. Instead of the pale and un-spicy while foam the boars me I will use a completely different idea. I so got hooked on it that I ordered the parts already.  A few post above I made a post “Spectacularly cheap, pretty and effective.” about the new Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes.  The picture does not make justice to them – in real world they look spectacular. So, my new brilliant idea is to get rid all my acoustic treatment on this wall:

 

And to replace it with a ccustom-made organ-like pipes, made from Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes. I mean I will build the organ like pattern, with a combination of the tube of different size and different diameters. The Kanuf brown unfinished pipes looks spectacular ion my room. The only concern I have is that the top of the type will be at the same level as the exit of horn mouth – so I naturally would like the types do not make any Helmholtz resonating; otherwise I would need to close the types.

 

I very much like the idea as it will kill all HF reflection and very dramatically randomize MF. It might also superbly cool looking. I will be hanging a few “trunks” of the Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes under the center ridge of the cathedral selling  as well. The color of the Kanuf unfinished brown fiberglass tubes is very good matching with the color or my furniture and my carpet. Do not be too bound with the ugly plan-drawing I made. I do anticipate a very-very positive esthetic and caustic outcome of this attempt.

The Pussy.


That was done two weeks back but now I am uploading some images. I find absolutely wonderful from my point of view configuration how to treat the space behind and above my listening spot. I used the untreated version of the new brown-color pressed fiberglass tubes and I organized them in organ pattern with pipes of different decameter and height. This gives a wonderful combination of high absorption at HF with diffusion at mid frequency. The wall now look, feel and the most important sound very good. It is so good that I even place one pipe at the ridge of the cathedral ceiling, hanging atop of the room.

I very much like this configuration. There is one minor moment that I note – the HF absorption become less affective with temperature in the run under 60F. I think it is not a big deal to keep it above 60 as below 60F to be in the room is not particularly comfortable.

There is no negative health impact that I observe. Until I touch the pipes with my bare hands I fee nothing and since the pipes are sitting on the walls I do not touch them. It looks like the “carbuncles” do not drop from the walls themselves.

My original version had no leafs but it was a bit too boring scene. I added some leafs here and there and it sparkled the wall up and made a very good balance to the wall across with the leafs-loaded “bronze” clock. I also fell that some leafs made the reflection patter more random.

Looking at the all of it ornamentation I can’t deny that all of it look very gay. Furthermore, looking at the fun I had inventing and doing all of it I begun to question if I was a gay. However, the pictures that I took this morning do not convey the true lay of the land. The room’s sides have red mahogany feel and the bare walls feel screamingly empty.

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Site_Images/NewRoom_AcousticTreatment_3.JPG

The foliage color is very good come along with mahogany, not to mention that foliage colors are my favorite colors. This is very much what I like, the decadence colors of dilapidating walls mixed with despair and decay. If any better place then like this to play Bruckner?

NewRoom_AcousticTreatment_15.JPG

We label out kites as “Monsters” or “Weapons of mass distraction” – they slowly destroying the house. The last thing that they destroyed was the acoustic treatment behind the listening spot – I need to remove it as after the Cat run over it up and down 30205 times the treatment looks like it after WWIII.

Weapons_of_mass_distraction.JPG


 

Now the question is what to put in there. To have a parabolic surface in there is very important and to have that surface to eat upper and mid frequencies is very important. Wify of cause proposed a tapestry or sculpture but it will not be sufficiently absorbing acoustically. Ironically it is a very visible location in the room and it need to be “pretty”, whatever it means. Now I have a dilemma


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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Hindenburg acoustic treatment.
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A few days back Kitty had a farewell parry in her old hospital and she was given a bunch of party balloons. They were sitting udder at the cathedral ceiling of our listening room, with long 9 feel belts/ropes handing from the balloons, waiting time to be trashed...

Last night walking among the hanging belts like a submarine among a mind field it suddenly hit me that the concept might be a very interesting to you as a mobile  acoustic treatment.  The "belts/ropes" that hangs from air balloons might be in fact miniature acoustic trap or defuses and it would be very easy to put them in position. I can perfectly invasion let say 8 of those balloons sitting under the ceiling... in the mouth of my midbass horn - the location that they are not in a way of any way. Then as I need to deploy them during listening it would take no efforts to put them wherever I want.

This is not some kind of specific idea but rather an inspiration. I do envision let say 2 gas balloons with semi-deflective acoustic treatment between then that can be easy position in any location shielding out the undesirable acoustic zone of a listening room.

Rgs, the caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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The third listening spot.
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It is truly beautiful. Summer, water in the pool 82F for the last 3 weeks, there is no mastitis and weather is wonderfully. We are going with many home remodeling projects not and I frequently feel exhausted in end of the day, thanks to my current voluptuousness…

So, in the end of the day, as sun is setting down and world turn to soft warm colors it is unspeakably beautiful to max out the Macondo, to open the large pool doors, somber to the water that is warmer then air, light up a  deep pipe and spend some super relaxing time listening something like George Gurdjieff’s chants 

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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For sure a very different experience.
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That is very different fun. Sitting on the deck and smoking something like Astleys 99 while Macondo was playing something spectacular is kind of common routine of mine foe years but today it is so different. Now I am in the same chair, on the same deck with the same pipe but it is very different music that entertains me.  
Amy is playing our new piano today this evening, I am sure many from many evenings to come, and it is very different fun. The piano we got acutely very surprised me. There is many thing not right with it (will be fixed) but some of the things is does is truly super pleasurable.  I was considering to deal with acoustics of the corner what the piano sits to make it even more mellow and more round but it turned out the it is truly perfect as it.   That is so different. ….


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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A nice asymmetrical listening Room
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Nope, it is not my listening room but I it is a very nice looking listening room, I hope to post it here. The room has very nice dealing with first reflections, ceiling and many other aspects. I wish the right speaker were further from the wall. The room look like also has two ULF modules. This is a good move but unfortunately the ULF are not time alight and it is quite "auditable". If someone knows whose room it is and would make me to listen it then I might educate the room owner what to pay attention regarding ULF delay and will point to him out what to listen to discriminate the difference. Unfortunately I will not have a solution.....

Wilson_Nice_Romm.jpg




"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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It's Jfretch's system.
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From what he writes in Audiogon, it's an old version of his system. Now he has another pair of Wilson Audio speakers (Puppy 8's). And he lives in TX...

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vaslt&1028590273

Regards
   Gaston
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Romy the Cat


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Looking from Massachusetts :-)
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Ah, Texas, they are truly helpless people. They did not reach the level of humans evolution when such a fine things as bass time alignment would matter. They need to experience an influence of the Renaissance first....  Seriously, a nice looking listening room. I do like the ceiling a lot.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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Domestic games
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The last month was strange. We undergo a minor house overhaul. It started from the fact that we looking around the house and discoed two extra bedrooms that we did not exist. The result was kind devastating – we completely remap the rooms of the house, moved furniture, redo the rooms and moved office to different location (that implies spent days to re-route all wiring). 
 
We still have our Listening Room and Opera Rooms. The Opera room got a new near-sexy bay window that in fact is openable and looks very nice. The Listening room got a new piano and remodeling of the music corner. That is very nice. Also, we decided to factor in the center listening room a permanent sitting area. Yes, the time when Amy first time entered my life and discovered a single listening chair in the middle of room is gone – that war my golden listening times. Fist we compromise sound with listening couch and now we have a whole sitting arrangement with couches, chairs, ottomans and tables. The parabolic defuses behind the listening spot is gone and now hangs in there some kind of tapestry… 
 
How all of it affected sound? Well, this is a complicated subject. I do note that sound change and that my listening hobbits change, which itself a part of much longer conversation.  Generally I do have the same core sound but the fine points are slightly less fancy then I would like them to be. The irony is that not Amy but I was the driving motivation for the room arrangement change. In my mind I was super successful to integrate a very high performance listening room (including the midbass horns!!!) in perfectly conventional living room and how I need to factor into my formulation a family live in that living room. When Amy move with me the part of our virtual prenuptial agreement was “Listening room stays, never vote republican, and never get dog.” So, for all intended purpose I do have the very same listening room, in fact she objected absolutely nothing. What changed were the people living around the speakers and theirs behavior in the listening room, the new listening room furniture is just a reflection of this process. Now I need to catch the acoustic signature of those changes and make Mocondo adjustment accordingly. I do not think that it shall be too complicated….

The Cat
 


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Romy the Cat


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A minor collapse of major prenup.
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I feel strange tonight. I woke up at 2.30AM to feed the diabolically-smiling baby and as Thomas went back to sleep I keep walking back and forth of the listening room for 2 hours, having quite bewildering feelings. As Amy the Kitten moved with me we had virtual prenuptial agreement that consists of just 3 sensible points: 1) The listening room stays 2) Never challenge authority of Koshka 3) Never vote republican. Nowadays the things look and feel different. Koshka is dead. The stupid and on name-only liberals bring up candidates make us to vomit and the last election we went for a republican governor. The last was the listening room….

No, I did not yet converted the wood from bass horns to a custom baby cradle but I do admit that the integrity (and sound) of my listening room is slowly being compromised.  Not that Amy does it intentionally or with some kind of detrimental intent. She rather does her normal female nesting, surrounding our life with pleasurable artifacts of her cuteness. However, if in our bedroom her cuteness manifest itself with a zillion freakishly-unusable pillows, puffy blankets and wall tapestries, (meaning with acoustically wonderful things) then in listening room her décor inventiveness goes from one very bad acoustic idea to another acoustically-worst.

The latest blow that my listening room endures is her attack on the small piece of wall behind my listening couch (use to be a listening chair). Whoever read my site for long time remember the amount of efforts I spent to discover the problem and find a great solution to the problem of my back wall reflection. Read the pages 10 to 14 of this thread and you will witness the discovery process. The curved, perforated arrays of fiberglass pipes was a phenomenal solution; it created a literally acoustically black hole in my listening room that made the sonic imaging in the room dark, deep and no-noisy.  Even those seemingly random plastic red leafs were not a “celebration of my gayshness” but rather a very strategically positioned acoustic devises that set balance between absorption and diffusion at upper frequencies.
 
http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Site_Images/NewRoom_AcousticTreatment_15.JPG

With arriving of Amy the fiberglass pipes behind the listening spot are gone and replaced with irrelevant tapestry – a huge sonic snip. The line of fiberglass pipes at the peripheral of the midbass horns is replaced with books - another sonic snip. And the last nigh the wall behind the listing spot, the most important wall in any listening room (and particularly in mine), got it new permanent candidate – a wonderful silk screened brass rubbing,….. which is acoustic nightmare.

Amy loves brass rubbing and I need to admit that this and many other her visual preferences were “too Catholic” for my Ashkenazim point of view. However, as time went by it kind of rub off of me (pun not intended). Amy love of those things has nothing to do with Churchism. Any half British descendant and her undergraduate degree were Midlevel studies. She just love all sort of thing that in my inflated mind associated with nothing but no less then inquisition. However, traveling with her across Welsh, Scotland and England, visiting their cathedrals and consuming the British culture (about which I was uninformed before) I did fall in love with that island, those people and begin understand and appreciate Amy’s love to Midlevel British art. Nowadays the brass rubbing does not stake me as hard as before and I need to say that the brass rubbing that she put behind the listening sweet spot is a pronominal quality (the picture does not do justice). Still, it IS an acoustic disaster and I only grateful that she agreed did not put it into a glass frame.

Room_Brass_Rubbing.jpg

I do not…. I love her, this is her house and I truly would like her to make her home to reflect who she is. The brass rubbing would not be my first choice at the most visually prominent wall of the house but if she feels that it has to be then I would not argue with it. However, this is supper important acoustic wall that shall be no only “pretty” but actually “functional”.  I do not know if is worth trying to delegate the concept of “functionality” to women….

The Cat


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Functionality , Aesthetics, and Archiving Art
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The fact is, this is a "shared" room that is also seen (by at least one principal) as a "public" room; this is your "face". We all (marrieds) make these compromises in our shared rooms. I chose the house I'm in now because it has a room that my wife was/is willing to regard as "mostly mine". But don't think for a minute that I've had much to say when my systems have been in the living room. I should add as a friend (and as a surviving long-sufferer) that once ground is lost it is generally not worth it to try overtly to recover it. Rather, try to be worthy of a gift of restoration.

Regarding the precious rubbing, is it possible that it would best be "kept in a safer place", for any reason, regarding (UV) light, dust, bugs, cats, toddlers, etc. etc?...


Best regards,
Paul
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Dynamic screening
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There is space for a set of automated vertical fabric blinds to be attached underneath the bookcase...it could even run the length of the entire space, including in front of the alcove. You can of course angle vertical blinds arbitrarily, and perhaps even introduce random angles with some minor modification, though of course that would make drawing them back trickier. Naturally, triggered to be automatically drawn only when the amp is on...
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Romy the Cat


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Actually this is very good idea!
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 decoud wrote:
There is space for a set of automated vertical fabric blinds to be attached underneath the bookcase...it could even run the length of the entire space, including in front of the alcove. You can of course angle vertical blinds arbitrarily, and perhaps even introduce random angles with some minor modification, though of course that would make drawing them back trickier. Naturally, triggered to be automatically drawn only when the amp is on...

Hm, I do like it. So, I might put right over the brass rubbing some sort of removable blinds made from soft fabric tubes.  I have this type of blinds along the room windows and they work very well. I can even make vertical blinds that would form an arc over the brass rubbing. That would be the best as it would shape so necessary dome reflection but I did not see anything like this, particularly with acoustically effective blind’s louvers. The idea is very interesting however. If I do not find curved railing for blinds then I might make my own curbed bar and then just make my own vertical louvers and use them as a curved curtain.  I think it is doable and if I will be able to do it “pretty” then I can sell it to wify… and even to myself. 


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Volcanic fabric
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You could use this material for the louvers:
http://www.ixperial.net/epages/63772936.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/63772936/Products/BANDMW0011
It woven from fibre created by melting volcanic rock. It has a curious bronze lustre, so would go very well with the brass rubbing, and it is certainly ancient...
It is safe, but you must be careful with processing the cut edges.
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I should have done this.
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 decoud wrote:
There is space for a set of automated vertical fabric blinds to be attached underneath the bookcase...it could even run the length of the entire space, including in front of the alcove. You can of course angle vertical blinds arbitrarily, and perhaps even introduce random angles with some minor modification, though of course that would make drawing them back trickier. Naturally, triggered to be automatically drawn only when the amp is on...

I think this is a very good idea. Romy, if you do install these blinds, can you please share your findings on how they work for your sound (I am talking about adjusting the reflection angle).
I can see this solution being easily "sellable" to the wife in the house, with lot of arguments for a "mobile divider" between two rooms. You have a baby now, right, so this divider always comes in handy to block sound from kitchen if baby is taking a nap.
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Subduing the barbarity of function
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Placing a tool, any tool, even one subserving a civilised function such as playback, within an environment where aesthetic criteria ought to dominate is always tricky. Fidelity to function is rarely attractive by itself, whatever contemporary architects might say, though I suppose it is better than bad taste. It is strange though, given the margins, that so little intelligent attention is given to simple things, such as the horrors of indicator lights. How hard can it be to do as I have done, and embed tritium glass vials in the controls? 
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Some further thinking about integrated listening room.
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I think in the realm of integrated listening and living rooms with full stack 7-ch installation and 40Hz bass horn I did accomplish a very commendable thing. You will hardly fine a listening room out there that would be as living-friendly as mine as the same time that will sound like mine. The attic- hidden, time aligned large horns were brilliant idea for sure. However, as time passing by and with accusation of baby, perspective babies, a van and the rest of the mid-age things I need to admit that SOME of the aspects of my integrated listening environment I find today need to be revised.   

Nope, I am still against a dedicated listening rooms but I do admit that the “listening ceremony” as I use to have it in past does not happening so often in my current life, because of multiple reasons. So, I am looking in my mind an arrangement that would be better fit, I do not see any for now. I still would like to have the listening room to be integrated with leaving room and I would like do not loos sound quality but I would alike also the audio element of my listening room to have way smaller footprint. Ironical my acoustic system is a perfect candidate to how I would like to have audio to be in my room (small footprint) but I have 14 components playback that takes too much room. I am looking of some kind non-compromise footprint redaction…

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"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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No worries
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HI Romy,
As you know I have 2 kids, one is 8 and the other 3, they grew up around my system too, and they learn where to move where to touch and what not to touch, and it is great they have Access to good sound.
At the hardest time, when you cannot sleep, I would play some music and fall asleep on the first track and wake up when the music was over! Such is life.
But when I play music and they are around it is like a party: they start jumping up and down and dancing and running around.
I told both of them never to touch the tubes because they were hot, and they never did, kids are more intelligent than we give them credit for.
Once they had a friend over and he destroyed a cartridge... but not my kids and it was really my fault. The kid had never seen a turntable in his life!
My two cents, keep your system as it is, and enjoy it when you can: this too shall pass.
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Awesome memories
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I have 3 kids, by now two of them are grown ups and the youngest is 10.
I will always remember lifting the eldest in my arms for him to be able to see the 45 SET on top of the FlexyTable, and he asked me why those little bottles had fire inside. I will always cherish this memory...

The only thing I did was to include grills in every speaker I built and had no grief at all.

Gastón
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Post #: 440
Post ID: 21628
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Optimization of space
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Romy,
What worked for me may sound counter intuitive at first, but then everything worked out perfectly.Rotate the direction your speakers are pointing. In other words an example would be to rotate by a lot -- 45 degrees in relation to your room -- very extreme. But I am talking about much less -- 10 to 15 degrees diagonal. Yes you will have an asymmetrical, virtual, listening room. So what did this give me?....More room for audio components and a more compact "audio corner" for components.Better sound!Better room arrangement between sound system area and living area
Like I said -- counter intuitive but works. 
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