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Romy the Cat


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Post ID: 13799
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Weiss Engineering DAC202
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Denial Weiss just released a new DAC:

http://www.weiss-highend.ch/dac202/index.html

It looks like a versatile DAC, reasonably priced. There is not information about architecture, I am sure it be coming.  Goggling the DAC202 bring only the write up of Chris Connaker, the Computer Audiophile. Knowing that this little industry chiwawa sucks any single digital dick is given to him I did not bother to read what that cretin have written.

Most likely Denial renders his former delta-sigma DACs and the interface converters boxes in the same chassis – it might be an interesting DAC, even thought I was not a big fun of MEDEA DACs.  I wonder if the new DAC202 has the same code as the MEDEA had or Denial came up with something new.

I am not on the market for any digital and have no personal interest but somebody who does might take a look what it is. Surly if you do then max out the stupid digital volume control on the DAC202 DAC.

Romy The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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coops
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DAC202
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Listening to one at the moment, you can adjust the analogue gain, to use the least digital attenuation.
Keith.
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Romy the Cat


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About the multi-interface DACs.
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Coops, I am sure you find you find you typical single-sentence comment was very informative and containing a lot of expressed intentions.

Anyway, to the others. I have a feeling that there is a huge misleading with all this multi-interface DACS. Of cause there are different advantages for different interfaces. I am not at the position to compare them but I am as much as anybody else is in position to compare results from different interfaces. Here I think we have problems. I am not sure that any given DAC has the different interfaces implemented with identical level of quality respectfully to own topology. In fact I am sure that this is not the case and therefore when we, the users, say that this interface is better over that interface then we do not really talk about interface’s conceptuality but the given accidental implementation that we have exposed with a given unit.

This type of misleading is very common in audio and I fell very sorry that audio people are so frequently get hooked on it. A few days back a user of this site proposed that monophony and a concept is not bad as there were too many good mono record pressed in past. Retiring back to the converters topic: the industry was proving to everybody that HDCD is very good system but they failed to mention that HDCD were recorded or mastered via. Pacific processors that had A/D and converter section way superior than anything else at that time. The point is that in many cases the specific advantage that has reason and explanation presented in audio as a self-evident prove of irrelevant phenomena. I am against it.  

Take for instance the Weiss DAC202 or any other multi-interface DACs. We might hear that one interface sound better then other but you NEVERE hears from anybody that interface #1 underperforms in relation to what it shall do and therefore how it performs in regards to an interface #2 is irrelevant.

The caT


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coops
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Attenuation
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I thought we were just discussing attenuation, regarding connectivity the Weiss sounds best via it's firewire input,just a bit sharper, I find everything is a little more clearly defined than AES /s/pdif.
Keith.
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Romy the Cat


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Discussing attenuation? With whom?
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 coops wrote:
I thought we were just discussing attenuation, regarding connectivity the Weiss sounds best via it's firewire input,just a bit sharper, I find everything is a little more clearly defined than AES /s/pdif.
Keith.

Nope, we do not “discussing attenuation”. I was not, neither did you. I know that you, like many others out there, each 6 months discover for yourself a new “more clearly defined” sound, which is surprisingly affinity with an array of manufacturers that need some on-field spin from pretend to be users. So, I very much no doubt that you will like your new DAC. Enjoy and I wish you to discover a higher reason to own a playback….

The Cat


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coops
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Attenuation
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Romy you become more and more cantankerous as time passes, you mentioned digital attenuation in the first place, as to a 'higher reason to own a playback' what poppycock, I own a system to play music on what do you own yours for?
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