I never knew that Quicksilver does 6C33C, they never did when I was still monitoring what companies do. Their Triode Amp was, if I remember correctly, a base PP unit with a pair triode strapped 6L6/KT-88 tubes, where people were trying to put-in many alternative tubes. Perhaps they made a 6C33C version, why not?

I have one of my old Lamm ML2 amps sold to a guy who used them with Quads; I think he had a number of Quads vintages. Being a horrible/stupid sales person as I am, I for a long time asking him do not buy my ML2 to drive his Quads. He kept insisting and eventfully got them from me. After I shipped them I was considering change my email, phone number or to immigrate to Paraguay. Eventually he was sending me emails thanking me for the buy and reporting good sound… Go figure…

I never heard Quads that I appreciate. I always thought that Quads are a special club of people who got hooked on Quad’s idiosyncratic front-wave transformation…. Jordi, are you anywhere near US’ East cost?

Jordi wrote:

The secret is the K-Horns with ALL the mods!!! If you heard it you wouild know what I'm talking about! .

The K-Horns were Klipsch’s attempt to do something more or less reasonably sounding.  They were doing K-Horns for tens and tens years I believe starting in mid of 40’s with this design. In end of 40s Vitavox made the K-Horn replica with their CN191 system, using better drivers and getting rid of tweeter.

The K-Horns were a strange fruit. I never had them, heard a few time though. The Klipsch always had problem with drivers. In the K-Horns the phenolic tweeters were made for Klipsch by Electro-Voice and I believe they sourced the MF drivers from somewhere ealse. I think the MF driver were phenolic as well. I know nothing about their bass units. The phenolic MF and tweeters shell be quite soft with quite transient challenge – it would be nice to drive them with a “brutal” electronics, preferably with very lightly loading anodes…. Unfortunately the only K-Horns that I heard were driven by garbage electronics…

The K-Horns are very much not comply with my view of “proper horns” or “interesting horns” but I presume that it a K-Horns installation is made sensibly and if the rooms accidentally comply with the motives of the corner-loading then a K-Horns  setup might be OK.

I certainly do not know the “secret” in the K-Horns and nothing about their modes, nor did I hear the moded K-Horns. If you wish you might tell about your modifications. What I would be interested to know is not what exactly you did with your K-Horns but rather what dissatisfied you initially in the default K-Horns Sound and HOW you get from there to the Sound that made you more comfortable. In particularly I would be interested to learn how you correlated your subjective dissatisfactions with the actual modifications that you inflicted on that speaker.

BTW, Jordi what kind music you play on those K-Horns?

I am sorry that it took me so long to respond to yours and many other questions here but unlike most of the people who have the time to post here because they are unemployed, I have a DAY JOB and have to WORK for a living. This is not a value judgment by any means, but a conclusion based on observation.

To answer your question, this is like asking a man who drinks water what kind of water does he like to drink!  There are so many kinds of water that this is impossible to begin to describe.  For simplicity I will try to limit what I listen to to some of my favorite composers if this is of any help to you.  I am a great fan of the works of in no particular order Benjamin Britten, Johann Strauss, Rachmaninoff, Chopin, Grieg,Brahms, Sergei Prokofiev, Dvorák, Haydn, Robert Schumann, Arthur Honegger,Tchaikovsky, Aram Khachaturian, Bruckner, Weber, Mussorgsky etc etc etc!!!!!!

I also have a very soft spot in my heart for the great Hungarian composers including the stupidly underrated Zsigmond Szathmáry, Kodály, Bela Bartok, Paul Abraham and Ferenc Farkas, particularly in his unique interpretations/utilization of Schoenberg’s dodecaphonic techniques, and Vincent Adler (although finding someone to properly to interpret his virtuosic compositions and pianistic muse is VERY difficult.

This does not mean that I listen exclusively to classical but I listen to it quite often however do not limit myself to it by any means and for very good reason. I will explain.

Let us take the example of piano. When speaking of virtuosity, many classical-only listeners who listen to Sviatoslav Richter, Josef Hofman, Busoni or Paderewski for example, and who think that these classical pianists are the last word in pianistic virtuosity are SADLY MISTAKEN.  In fact nothing could be further from the truth.  Believe me when I say this as I graduated with honors in composition and performance from The Juillard School.

If you are a limited only to classical listener who doesn’t just sit there drooling while following the notes with a stupid look on this face and instead decides to compare what he’s heard contextually with, to take a simple view, the contrapuntal coalescence of a great jazz pianist like Lenny Tristano or Thelonius Monk who understand meter and modal shift and tonal subtlety on a level that someone like Richter for example could only dream of, then you will have come to an understanding about music and its performance intricacies that few who listen ONLY to classical music will ever attain in his lifetime.

Jordi wrote:

I am sorry that it took me so long to respond to yours and many other questions here but unlike most of the people who have the time to post here because they are unemployed, I have a DAY JOB and have to WORK for a living. This is not a value judgment by any means, but a conclusion based on observation.

I think I need to rename my site into GoodWelfareClub.come….. Yes, most of the posters in here are chronically unemployed, also paralyzed and deaf…. They remain in a permanent coma and come back once per day just to post at this site….

Jordi wrote:

To answer your question, this is like asking a man who drinks water what kind of water does he like to drink!  There are so many kinds of water that this is impossible to begin to describe.  For simplicity I will try to limit what I listen to to some of my favorite composers if this is of any help to you.  I am a great fan of the works of in no particular order Benjamin Britten, Johann Strauss, Rachmaninoff, Chopin, Grieg,Brahms, Sergei Prokofiev, Dvorák, Haydn, Robert Schumann, Arthur Honegger,Tchaikovsky, Aram Khachaturian, Bruckner, Weber, Mussorgsky etc etc etc!!!!!! I also have a very soft spot in my heart for the great Hungarian composers including the stupidly underrated Zsigmond Szathmáry, Kodály, Bela Bartok, Paul Abraham and Ferenc Farkas, particularly in his unique interpretations/utilization of Schoenberg’s dodecaphonic techniques, and Vincent Adler (although finding someone to properly to interpret his virtuosic compositions and pianistic muse is VERY difficult. This does not mean that I listen exclusively to classical but I listen to it quite often however do not limit myself to it by any means and for very good reason. I will explain. Let us take the example of piano. When speaking of virtuosity, many classical-only listeners who listen to Sviatoslav Richter, Josef Hofman, Busoni or Paderewski for example, and who think that these classical pianists are the last word in pianistic virtuosity are SADLY MISTAKEN.  In fact nothing could be further from the truth.  Believe me when I say this as I graduated with honors in composition and performance from The Juillard School. If you are a limited only to classical listener who doesn’t just sit there drooling while following the notes with a stupid look on this face and instead decides to compare what he’s heard contextually with, to take a simple view, the contrapuntal coalescence of a great jazz pianist like Lenny Tristano or Thelonius Monk who understand meter and modal shift and tonal subtlety on a level that someone like Richter for example could only dream of, then you will have come to an understanding about music and its performance intricacies that few who listen ONLY to classical music will ever attain in his lifetime.

I have not been able to respond to all your questions until now because I was infected by a trojan on this site several days ago.  It SUCKS having this happene because it takes radical hours of time to track this crapware down through the windows tree and in the mentime you get NOTHING DONE.

I got this infection while reading posts on the Playback Listening page, Musician’s ear thread.  My antivirus program alerted me with a pop up that a trojan was being downloaded.  The program did NOT stop the infection.  Since this was the ONLY WINDOW OPEN open at the time, it is where the infection occurded.  After running a scan, I learned the details of this trojan:

Object name: systemwin.exe
Object path: C\
Discovery: Trojan horse PSW.Generic5.GOY

Here is more information about this trojan:

Spyware PSW.Lmir.ga Information
Name: Trojan.PSW.Lmir.gaCategory: Password CapturerDate: 2004-02-05Dangerous: Yes
Trojan.PSW.Lmir.ga is one of Password Capturer spywares.
Finding it on your computer means that your computer is infected with Password Capturer and crucial data could be endangered or even lost.
This Password Capturer is also known as:
•Trojan Horse - named by Panda.
• Win32.Lemir.N - named by Computer Associates.
• Win32/Lemir!PWS!Trojan - named by Computer Associates.
• Win32/Lemir.N!Trojan - named by Computer Associates.

The exe was sitting in the DirectX folder.  I rebooted in safe mode and deleted the exe.  Unfortunately though due to the fact that this trojan is sitting on the goodsoundclub site, I can not afford the time or the aggravation to visit again. Please do not ask me any more details about it because I have listed them all and beside, I do not want to come to this site again and risk reinfection ever again unless the webmaster can get it OFF THIS SITE! Best of luck to you all who stays behind!

Jordi wrote:

I have not been able to respond to all your questions until now because I was infected by a trojan on this site several days ago.  It SUCKS having this happene because it takes radical hours of time to track this crapware down through the windows tree and in the mentime you get NOTHING DONE.

Jordi wrote:

I got this infection while reading posts on the Playback Listening page, Musician’s ear thread.  My antivirus program alerted me with a pop up that a trojan was being downloaded.  The program did NOT stop the infection.  Since this was the ONLY WINDOW OPEN open at the time, it is where the infection occurded.  After running a scan, I learned the details of this trojan: Object name: systemwin.exe Object path: C\ Discovery: Trojan horse PSW.Generic5.GOY Here is more information about this trojan: Spyware PSW.Lmir.ga Information Name: Trojan.PSW.Lmir.gaCategory: Password CapturerDate: 2004-02-05Dangerous: Yes Trojan.PSW.Lmir.ga is one of Password Capturer spywares. Finding it on your computer means that your computer is infected with Password Capturer and crucial data could be endangered or even lost. This Password Capturer is also known as: •Trojan Horse - named by Panda. • Win32.Lemir.N - named by Computer Associates. • Win32/Lemir!PWS!Trojan - named by Computer Associates. • Win32/Lemir.N!Trojan - named by Computer Associates.

Jordi wrote:

The exe was sitting in the DirectX folder.  I rebooted in safe mode and deleted the exe.  Unfortunately though due to the fact that this trojan is sitting on the goodsoundclub site, I can not afford the time or the aggravation to visit again. Please do not ask at software engineer any more details about it because I have listed them all and beside, I do not want to come to this site again and risk reinfection ever again unless the webmaster can get it OFF THIS SITE! Best of luck to you all who stays behind!

Romy the Cat

PS: BTW, I just run some queries. Your post from on 8/24/2007 7:10:00 PM was made from 152.31.229.186 that belongs: Chase, United States, North Carolina Research and Education Network. I do not think any further comments are necessary: