jessie.dazzle wrote:

Samuel wrote : "...Step 1) no way .... i will never buy Cabass speakers..." Samuel, I did not at all mean to recommend Cabasse speakers... My point is not brand-specific... I just happen to stop on that pair as an example of a more or less consumer grade offering with a decent reputation (I have zero experience with them, so probably should have avoided using THAT example)... You could easily substitute older JBLs, Grundig, Yamaha, etc. The idea is to get yourself something relatively inexpensive, but nevertheless full range capable, right now, to fill the void and keep you from spending stupid money without knowing what exactly you are doing... This will allow you to take a distance, and see things more clearly. You can then take the time necessary to build a system that corresponds to your ideal. It will be far more educational. Another way of handling "Step 1" would be to pick up a good pair of "audiophile-approved" speakers on the second hand market (being careful to avoid anything that "drills holes in your head"!!!)... Use them as a place holder/educational tool, then sell them for about the same price once you know more what you want. If you want a name with which I do have some experience, you might try Verity Audio Parsifal+Encores (around $7,000 second hand)... They are not the last word in efficiency, and they are a ported design, but driven by decent electronics, in the right room (medium to large, but not huge), there is a good chance they would keep you satisfied while your direction has time to mature. Then, when and if the time comes to sell, you will likely not lose a cent. Also, because you move around a lot, their protective flight cases would be a big plus. It is not impossible that you find yourself keeping them for a very long time (I had a pair for eight years, and feel I learned from them). jd*

drdna wrote:

Hey this looks vaguely familiar. http://www.dagogo.com/Spotlight/AcapellaTriolon-Crowder.html

Hi Samuel, I see that quite a few replies without much in the way of suggestions.  Romy will not give you what you want, ie. a shopping list of speakers to audition, but I will give you one or two recommendations that I think sound quite good in that price range.

1) Soundlab U1, A1 or M1.  All quite similar in size full-range electrostatic loudspeakers systems.  Superb transparency and low level resolution, good dynamics (only not great compared to  full horn system), uncolored, and utterly coherent (this is a big problem with ANY multidriver system)

2) Avantgarde Duo.  Does a reasonably good job of not sounding particularly "horny" while having superb transparency and dynamics.  Bass is only so so with the powered module.

3) Used Wilson X1 Grand SLAMM.  Not the best speaker but dynamic like a horn and less colored than most horns.  Use with good tube amps and it makes a superb sound (with 95db/watt sensitivity and an easy load 30 watts is probably sufficient in all but a large room).  For a "conventional" box speaker I haven't heard anything better.

4) Edgarhorn Titan

5) Apogee Grand.  IMO, there is simply not a better speaker system in the world today than an Apogee Grand.  It was $85,000 when new and worth every penny.  I have a friend with a pair in Germany and there is simply nothing I have heard that is better.  The trouble is finding one as they made only about 20 pairs.  For much less money and much less trouble finding one look at good used Apogee Divas, Scintillas, or Studio Grands.

6) Apogee Synergy.  Resurrected Apogee now located in Australia.  Their new model is like a Scintilla but now a much easier speaker to drive (95db/watt and 3 ohms).  This is probably one of the top 2 or 3 best panel speakers currently in the world (the others are the Soundlabs and the Analysis Audio Amphytron)

7) Analysis Audio Amphytron  another panel speaker and large (over 2meters tall).

8) Thiel CS 3.6.  Yes, I know its cheap on the used market and now discontinued (but only after like at 13 year production run) but IMO it is the best speaker Jim Thiel ever made and with good amps it is very convincing.  The coherency and transparency rival electrostats and it has sufficient punch to satisfy there as well.  With the money saved on the speakers one can think seriously about getting the very best in electronics (a whole other thread I think).

morricab wrote:

Used Wilson X1 Grand SLAMM. Not the best speaker but dynamic like a horn and less colored than most horns. Use with good tube amps and it makes a superb sound (with 95db/watt sensitivity and an easy load 30 watts is probably sufficient in all but a large room). For a "conventional" box speaker I haven't heard anything better.

samuel33 wrote:

On my short list i have to listen to : von schweikert VR 7...

samuel33 wrote:

....this thread is boring. I just needed  to find quickly speakers for my job, and need advices. This thread is over.

There is a difference between me not wiling to be engaged in conversation on idiotic topics or deal with the posters who persistently are uploading idiotic content and me “run away each time I feel difficulty in a discussion”. I do not ever remember me ruining from content but I do have a habit to recognize and to label not worthy opponent or collaborator and to “dispose” them.  I initially thought that you have any residue of a common sensitivity when I explain to you this morning:

http://www.GoodSoundClub.com/TreeItem.aspx?PostID=5572 

…but it looks that your “common sense” understands different persuasion…

I have each month a freaking Moron surfing internet and founding the world “audio” join this site and begin to thrill me and others with his idiotic desire to “find quickly speakers” or to get a “quickie advice”. If you do not release yet that with your simplicity you just found yourself in a wrong community then I think it is an opportunity for you to reconsider it. I know that you do not “get” what I suggest you – would it be a good reason for you to move over?

This thread was over right with your initiation of it but unfortunately “morricab” posted a valuable post… Anyhow, since I have no intention to read your posts and you not wiling to post anything that indicates your, even remote, scene of audio consciousness I would like to propose you to take a year of vacation off my site. Next year if you understand what this site was all about you need to write as essay on the subject “Why I was an Audio-Moron™” and then, if I found your arguments reasonable, you will be welcome to post here again. Meanwhile, you have one more post to make and then you rights to post at my site will be revoked. Please do not play further games with me – I could be very nasty pussy.