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Max Shatsky
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Post #: 81
Post ID: 3342
Reply to: 3326
Abstract Audio?
Romy,

You say that the digital read from your transport is better than the multiple reads of CD-Rom with EAC software?
Thats interesting!!! It means that it is better to read once in a 'good' way than ten times to read garbage and average it.
So, all those hi-end CD players that use CD-ROM (or DVD-rom) as a transport just extract the same garbage multiple times.
I guess the reason is that a noise that come from CD and particular CD-ROM is not random. If it mistakenly reads 0 as 1 it may continue to do so due to its physical characteristics.  Otherwise, multiple reads should work at least as good as your CEC transport.
Such things do not happen to CD-data due to a significant space allocated for error-correction. Sure, who needs error correction for CD-audio, it only creates a market for expensive cd-transports.

I'm waiting when Flash-memory, or any other error free alternatives, will subsitute current optical audio discs, then the transport issue will become irrelevant.

>I heard that nowadays even the head-held devices or laptops with premium audio cards could do good 16bit. I heard that some people use even consumer sound card or pro-video processing machines and get good 16Bit of them

Somehow I don't beleive that a high quality DAC can be implemented in computer enviroment.

> Max, perhaps I wrong but I do not remember you as a me-like-psycho who has interest in “abstract” audio.

I don't think you are privileged to call yourself a 'psycho', since you are a rational person and have very well defined goals and thats the oposite from the 'psycho' Smile

'Abstract Audio' - you mean an Audio you can't hear? Smile What you do is very practical audio (and I've heard your Audio result), and those on AA forum - they do Abstract Audio (afterall these are the same acronyms AA).

Anyway, I'll try to use my Creative digital out, if it gives fair results, then I'll upgrade to Lynx. Now I'm going to shop for a good DAC ...



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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 82
Post ID: 3346
Reply to: 3342
It is complicated with Digital. My saga…

 Max Shatsky wrote:
You say that the digital read from your transport is better than the multiple reads of CD-Rom with EAC software? Thats interesting!!!

Well, tell me dive you data and you make your own concussions.  I read CDs with CEC TL0 with is not just a CD transport but it something really self-defined (if it is not broken) and this transport way more capable than any other transport that I have seen. Properly operating TL0  (with a proper fat DAC, as TL0 is “lean”) dose something as much as could be pushed out of “red book”.

Now the CD-Rom. There are very controversial rumors about the quietly of CD-Roms and CD copies. I have countless examples, with all imaginable technologies and none of them I find satisfying (except POD CD-Roms 10 years ago). Result is varying and quite unpredictably. A few years ago I decided to build high fidelity duplication with objective to get identical copy. I had a dedicated machine and I went to local Micro Center and bought I beeline it was 22 (!) external CD-Roms, DVD-Roms, Writers and etc… (I told them that I will return all of them except one and they were OK with it). Then I attached 4 of those external CD-Roms to my PC and loaded them with the blank CD that I use (MF’s UltraDisk). The EAC software has an option when it tries to read and to record CD and it builds up the list of preferred hardware for the given CD. I marked the CD-Rom that EAC recognized as the best and moved to another batch of 4 CD-Roms. Doing it again and again, and then running the test with the winners I was able to find one CR-ROMs that EAC recognized as the absolutely the best CD-ROM for the given PC, given disk, given PS, given EAC settings and …  whatever else. I returned the rest of the CD-Roms to the store and keep using the “best accepted”. The recordings that I’m getting on it are very much better then the recordings I was able to make by any other means but still they are not as good as I would like to.  So, another day I asked myself the very same question – will that CD-Rom read CD better then TL0. I read CD via EAC to file and played it. TL0 clearly was way more superior. Then I played the CD-Rom directly to DAC, many DACs,  with different cables, interfaces and so on… nothing was able to defeat TL0… Actually the difference is not minor…. If you find yourself in Boston I will be happy to demonstrate it.

 Max Shatsky wrote:
It means that it is better to read once in a 'good' way than ten times to read garbage and average it.
So, all those hi-end CD players that use CD-ROM (or DVD-rom) as a transport just extract the same garbage multiple times.
I guess the reason is that a noise that come from CD and particular CD-ROM is not random. If it mistakenly reads 0 as 1 it may continue to do so due to its physical characteristics.  Otherwise, multiple reads should work at least as good as your CEC transport.
Such things do not happen to CD-data due to a significant space allocated for error-correction. Sure, who needs error correction for CD-audio, it only creates a market for expensive cd-transports.

I relay can’t rational on the subject. I have no idea why digital works when it works and I hardly have seen anyone who has. Of souse there are many people who know digital but all of them contradict each other and they have little understanding of relation between digital knots and bolt and Sound. At least I completely blind in the rationalization of digital reasons…

 Max Shatsky wrote:
Somehow I don't beleive that a high quality DAC can be implemented in computer enviroment.

Perhaps you are correct, I do not know…

 Max Shatsky wrote:
I don't think you are privileged to call yourself a 'psycho', since you are a rational person and have very well defined goals and thats the oposite from the 'psycho'. 'Abstract Audio' - you mean an Audio you can't hear? What you do is very practical audio (and I've heard your Audio result), and those on AA forum - they do Abstract Audio (afterall these are the same acronyms AA).

I disagree but this would be a subject for a different thread…

 Max Shatsky wrote:
Anyway, I'll try to use my Creative digital out, if it gives fair results, then I'll upgrade to Lynx. Now I'm going to shop for a good DAC ..

Hm, I do not know Max… I have always difficulties to make purchasing decisions and I usually avoid doing them. I relay do not feel comfortable when I open my month and people buying things. I had many events in past when I advised something, people then run to buy and I always felt stupid.  I think people should navigate own purchasing decisions based upon very different motivation then juts somebody advise anything… Own objectives and own dissatisfactions with VERY SPECIFIC SONIC RESULTS that currently accomplished are way more objective purchasing navigation criteria then somebody else’s advisement…
BTW, regarding the Lynx. Being myself religiously Microsoft guy who within my professional trade not only despise non-Microsoft tools but also has strong detest to all that Unix/Mac/Lynx people I do acknowledge that I have numerous quite credible reports that Mac and Lynx workstations are better for sound. I personally never was able to confirm it as I do not even touch any box that does not run Windows…

Rgs,
Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Hyperborean


Minneapolis
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Post #: 83
Post ID: 10008
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Recording FM (or anything for that matter)
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Am I going nuts or all these posts around digital recording just crazy?
Digital is not even near that point to consider it as a recording medium, specially at home.
There is only one way to do it right - analog!
Seems like you Roma can do it right (financially), get an AMPEX (r70) or STUDER (A80?) tube machine (no need to upgrade in the future).
Peace of mind is guaranteed then.
Rgs,
Hyperborean.


The amount of noise which anyone can bear undisturbed stands in inverse proportion to his mental capacity.
Arthur Schopenhauer
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Let the things to be much easer…
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 Hyperborean wrote:
Am I going nuts or all these posts around digital recording just crazy? Digital is not even near that point to consider it as a recording medium, specially at home. There is only one way to do it right - analog! Seems like you Roma can do it right (financially), get an AMPEX (r70) or STUDER (A80?) tube machine (no need to upgrade in the future). Peace of mind is guaranteed then.
Actually I very much disagree. Saying this you demonstrate you lack of familiarity with what FM recording possess might be all about. Dynamic-wise it has very little difference then recording live events and in many instances you would never know is a performance would worth too record and to keep. Analog does not do provide recording quality unit you are at high-bias tape, high-bias mashine, half-track and 15ips. At least my Stellavox in lover mode does not compete with my digital. The digital done right is absolutely sufficient to handle FM, probably more than FM. Anyhow, I was contemplating different analog options in beginning of my FM recordings and I am very glad that I ended up with none of them. Badly implemented analog is identically bad as badly implemented digital. Digital, while serving the same objectives let the things to be much easer… The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Hyperborean


Minneapolis
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Post #: 85
Post ID: 10011
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Recording FM (or anything for that matter)
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Well, I'm not convinced.
First things first. Yes I don't know specifics of FM recording, but what I know in general about recording is enough for me to conclude that sound processed threw converters A-D and back D-A is going to be ... well, processed. I'm talking about fundamental differences between analog and digital recording here.
Second, we're not talking about direct to disk or direct feed from mic to tape or to digital recorder here, are we? So it is safe for me to assume (without learning about "benefits" of FM  broadcasting) that there are a lot of stuff between mic in front of musicians and recorder in your home. So, why even talk about dynamic range when you're using SE tube amps. Now, the idea is wonderful never the less. I'm thinking to try that with my AKAI tape decks now, but I don't have a good tuner yet. But maybe I missed the point all along, it's just the thought of digital recording is making me shiver, seriously. You of course, can do what you please, but I still disagree. I strongly believe in the shorter signal path possible, that's all.
P.S. Using the opportunity let me applaud you for nailing those Fr?mers and Valins! Good for you!
Mo?o???!



The amount of noise which anyone can bear undisturbed stands in inverse proportion to his mental capacity.
Arthur Schopenhauer
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 86
Post ID: 10013
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An idea what digital is capable of.
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 Hyperborean wrote:
  Well, I'm not convinced.

Well, I do not think that you would see anywhere at my site trying to convince anybody. The only person I do try to convince is myself, and I might assure you that so far it was quite difficult task.

 Hyperborean wrote:
First things first. Yes I don't know specifics of FM recording, but what I know in general about recording is enough for me to conclude that sound processed threw converters A-D and back D-A is going to be ... well, processed. I'm talking about fundamental differences between analog and digital recording here.

Actually, Hyperborean, if you read my site, the multiple posts then you might come across to my comment that for me the definition of success of digital recording playback is to play my tuner loaded directly to amps and then inject the A/D and D/A to the signals and see no change in sound. Be advised that FM is dynamically compressed and frequency challenged and it look like it would not be too hard. However, FM has mind-boggling space and imaging that is VERY difficult to handle.  

 Hyperborean wrote:
Second, we're not talking about direct to disk or direct feed from mic to tape or to digital recorder here, are we? So it is safe for me to assume (without learning about "benefits" of FM  broadcasting) that there are a lot of stuff between mic in front of musicians and recorder in your home. So, why even talk about dynamic range when you're using SE tube amps.

I am sorry, I do not follow what you are saying….

 Hyperborean wrote:
Now, the idea is wonderful never the less. I'm thinking to try that with my AKAI tape decks now, but I don't have a good tuner yet. But maybe I missed the point all along, it's just the thought of digital recording is making me shiver, seriously. You of course, can do what you please, but I still disagree. I strongly believe in the shorter signal path possible, that's all.

It is all depends if you have in Minneapolis a good station that Broadcast good music and good sound. Shell you do then if I were in your place then I would go unquestionable good digital. Stop by at your local pro shop and borrow over weekend for $100 Lavry A/D and D/A – it will give you an idea what digital is able of.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Hyperborean


Minneapolis
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Post #: 87
Post ID: 10015
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Recording FM (or anything for that matter)
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Hey, I'm not trying to convince anybody either. I’m just trying to help you in making the right decision - call me silly for doing so,( and yes I know, what is right for me might be not right for you, and I realize that, do I really have to be careful with every word here?). Yet, I don't believe that the sole purpose of this site is just for whole world to be a silent witness to you thinking out loud. Unless, I'm I wrong of course? Now, if you feel that I'm not bringing anything constructive to the table, then just ignore my posts. No hard feelings, I will understand. Unfortunately, I can't possibly read every mention of this topic since your site is enormous,  I'm sure it’s annoying for you and I'm sorry. Thank you though, for your advice about my local FM broadcast and I will definitely try that out sometime. Cheers.

P.S. Don’t dig too deep into every one of my words. I’m not Mike Fremer-- brrr.


The amount of noise which anyone can bear undisturbed stands in inverse proportion to his mental capacity.
Arthur Schopenhauer
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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...it is just not nessossary….
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Well, it is not about ignoring your or my posts. There is an objective reality and if we are making any judgments then I think it would be worth to recognize some base of the realty. My point is that good quality of A/D and D/A conversion is sufficient eighth to handle technical demands of FM. Pay attention that I do not argue high speed tape or live recording 0 I do not know and I do not practice it. But FM can be handleable. I think I have good quality FM and running FM straight out and comparing it with FM via D/A and D/A I see no difference, even with immediate switching. I think if you try this experiment yourself then you might review your tapes intentions, it is just not nessossary….


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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drdna
San Francisco, California
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Post #: 89
Post ID: 10018
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No, not going crazy...
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 Hyperborean wrote:
I'm talking about fundamental differences between analog and digital recording here.
This is a very valid point. You are quite correct, but I think it is important to recognize the differences and evaluate these compared to the requirements of human perception. At a certain point of refinement, the two will be indistinguishable. Also, each has its strengths and weaknesses. But it is important to understand, we are not just talking about some Sony DAT or something. To get an idea, look at this thread or this one.

 Hyperborean wrote:
Second, we're not talking about direct to disk or direct feed from mic to tape or to digital recorder here, are we?
No, but I believe the topic of the this discussion is How to record an FM Broadcast, so those are the ground rules.

 Hyperborean wrote:
So, why even talk about dynamic range when you're using SE tube amps. Now, the idea is wonderful never the less.
Absolutely. Totally correct for most conditions, but the DSET approach directly addresses these concerns.

Nevertheless, the concerns are absolutely valid ones. It is just that they have already been dealt with. THAT is the big caveat. Given that your system deals with these issues, THEN you read this FM thread in this context I think.

I am not trying to pick apart your argument, because I actually think you are correct, but you no not have the additional information to realize why this thread is not crazy talk.

Adrian
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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The late quality of FM recordings.
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During the last month I become extremely pleased with the technical aspect of my FM reception and recordings. Since I render my “super Schwarz” project:

http://www.GoodSoundClub.com/TreeItem.aspx?PostID=9997

I made an number of configuration changes starting from routing my antenna signal and ending my digital mixing, including the change of the recording procedures. As the result the quality of FM reception and the quality I get of my FM recording  improved and now even want I recorded 6 months back I can easily do better, quality -wise and program-wise. That is very cool and the only apology that I have in all of it that I did not start to experiment with all of it at the level I do it now only 13 year earlier, when I move in Boston.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Well, FM, here it is.
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Juts to give an idea of what is going o… Here is a fragment from today’s glorious performance of BSO… The fragment has slightly less brilliance and slightly more noise than the ordinal file and it was resaved in 32 bit WAV format (originally recorded in 64 bit). It is Rohde & Schwarz EU-6201 into Lavry AD122 at 88/24 (100meg) + the marvelously sounding today BSO. Pay attention how the celebrated opening of the Bruckner 7 works in THIS case surprisingly-well with the Boston’s Symphony Hall.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yztteoziqno

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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tuga


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Beautiful.
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Hi Romy,

It felt like loosing my breath when the music stopped. I don't have any CDRs around but listening with a pair of headphones left me wanting for the whole thing. Amazingly powerful colours and textures... and what a beautiful mood.

Best,
Tuga

P.S.: I'll have to content myself with Matacic's before bedtime...


"Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira Pascoaes
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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I find the sense of space and textures is very good…
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Here is 3 more files that were recorded today, yesterday and in the beginning of the week. All of them FM with Schwarz and Lavry, each file is 88/24 and around 100Meg. They are compressed and it is well heard but they LIVE and they in my view more alive than anything else.

http://www.mediafire.com/?agaelw7mmoy

http://www.mediafire.com/?tibnzyzpjgz

http://www.mediafire.com/?dm1mljybnxt

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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scooter
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Do yourselves a favor...
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Stunning pieces; do yourselves a favor and check these files out.

What does this mean for Mr. TU-X1?
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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The Mr. TU-X1 and the rest FM...
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 scooter wrote:
What does this mean for Mr. TU-X1?

Actually it has nothing do with TU-X1. If I record with TU-X1 I will have virtually the same result. The TU-X1 is bounded to Pacific A/D converter and Schwarz is bounded to Lavry. Schwarz and Lavry running on all time and I remote desktop my PC with recorder to record the programs that I like. Schwarz has advantage over TU-X1 that it does not require any RF attenuation – it would be difficult to do from PC. Schwarz also much less sensitive to the precision of antenna positioning – it is also default to do from PC… Another thing is that I feel that it is easy to run Lavry all time then Pacific. Pacific has A/D and D/A and run hot. I was trying to disconnect Pacific’s D/A section but in the end decided do not do it.

So, my use of Rohde & Schwarz the last few weeks is not a retirement of TU-X1 or my feeling that it underperform. If I fine the ways to rotate antenna, and tune on and off different tuner or A/D processors from my PC then I will permanently tune TU-X1 to one station and Schwarz to another station.

There is some consideration however. I can’t feed from one antenna two tuners without losing 3-4db. I need those dBs… I also do not know at this point how to position antenna very precisely without listing the signal (I can’t do it via remote desktop) as to measure modulation strength is not too indicative…

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 96
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Living with LIVE FM
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What a beautiful liberating alternative – to practice audio living with LIVE FM. There are no barbarian cretins who “master” Sound of performances, no editors, no worsening sound by stupid media formats. Just good people play good music and LIVE broadcasts… No one and nothing in the middle…

Living with LIVE FM is like fishing – you never know what you catch next and this is so damn intriguing!  For instance I got today home and today catch was

Previn’s Double Concerto for violin, double bass and orchestra
Bach: Orchestral Suite No.  2 by Bach Collegium Japan under Masaaki Suzuki
Michael Lewin playing birds sound Liszt in Fraser Performance Studio

Here is a fragment of Duo for violin and double bass alone with Anne Sophie Mutter playing violin and Roman Patkolo playing double bass. As usually for internet – the file is downgraded to 32 bit WAV format (~75Meg) and recorded with Rohde & Schwarz EU-6201 into Lavry AD122 at 88/24.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?o29xzkimezd

It is live-to-tape of LIVE performance in Fraser Performance Studio. You might hear excessive noise as today in Boson was very heavy rain ad I had 8dB less signal - the condition what TU-1X would be better to use. (But TU-1X is not set for remote automated recording). Still, the Sound is what I call “mode then enough” – love that play!

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Antonio J.
Madrid, Spain
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Post #: 97
Post ID: 10177
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Delightful
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Very nice performance indeed. I wish I had that much noise you're "suffering" hahaha. Here that noise level is only present on very good days. Usually it's quite higher.
How do you feel about AS Mutter? IMO she's getting more meaningful as she ages.
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Romy the Cat


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How do not go to concerts.
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What could you better?!

Got home today.  Shut down the Schwarz and played what it fished today. It was the live play of Orion String Quartet

http://www.orionquartet.com/

That what I call “kind play” and kind sound. Here is a fragment of “Italian Serenade” by Hugo Wolf.  As uselessly, 88K, 24bit, slightly screwed sound as it was converted to WAV file.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jm5yyqfmmz5

Very good.
The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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jp
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DAW settings
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Ive tried various configurations but was unable to produce a recording that is similar to the fm transmission, although its not too terrible.  I monitor the sound by using the same output of the Sansui that goes into the DAW.  Replaying the file, I notice some compression and loss of that FM quality.  Sansui-->ad122-->DAW using lynxaes16 and wavelab 6-->da924

Settings under lynx mixer:
-Under settings- high resolution clock rates checked on,
   -level meter range set to highest,
   -buffer size 1024,  
   -I unchecked every option under advanced such as synchro lock, sync start.
   -rest of settings in pic.

Settings under Wavelab: see pic.  Alternatively Ive tried setting the playback and recording device to asio and it doesnt seem to make any difference.

If anyone could post suggestions on what I may have overlooked or different configurations, it would be much appreciated.
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