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op.9
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Bliss
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Arthur Bliss
String Quartets nos. 1 and 2
The Griller Quartet 1943/1950
Dutton CDBP9780 2008

This is a revelation for me - on all fronts...

1. Music. I don't know how I have missed this fabulous music up till now. I'm ashamed to say that I had no idea how exotic and imaganitive Mr. Bliss could. I know the wonderful Clarinet quinetet .. but this is in a different league. inspired throughout..

2. Playing. Funny, I knew Mr Griller shortly before he died, as he was my quartet coach when I was in my teens - he often used to mention this music and how virtuoso it was. And also how they were a really very good quartet when they were young. I'm embarrassed to say that I just didn't really see how they possibly could be... and why o why didn't I run out to buy the record then? strange. Mr. Griller leads the group very strongly and has a really easy virtuosity and fabulous passion...
Funny, I never really warmed to him as a person.

3. Really terrific sound. Dutton Labs have made really good transfers of a superbly balanced recording. Lots of impact, detail and risk. Its a demonstration of proper quartet recording... from 1943 hmmm!



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Romy the Cat


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The unknown String Quartet
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The Arthur Bliss’ String Quartets? I almost have a déjà vu feeling as I even remember the box with the Quartets that I head but I do not remember the music. I will buy this recording; BTW if it is so good as you say then would it be worth to find an LP? BTW, James, is you are in the chamber word then may I ask you about another “less famed” string quartet? Tchaikovsky wrote 3 string quartets. They are OK, nothing special but I do LOVE the String Quartet #2. Have you heard it? If not then try to find it properly performed...

The Cat


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op.9
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And a secret tip...
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I've no idea if the LP will be better. In my experience Mike Dutton really makes excellent transfers. I'd be fascinated though if you could do better...

BTW. do you listen to mono recordings with one single speaker? I've listen to this recording both ways and I'm still not sure what I prefer. There are moments of real magic with a single speaker... but I think my brain makes some sort of false stereo when I listen with 2 speakers, and I find it easier to separate different musical lines..

I know all three Tchaikovsky quartets well. I think they are ALL masterpieces. No.1 is played the most and seems to me to be a greater work each time. (some moments in the finale are amongst my favourite EVER)! I've just recently got to know no.3 after a good and trusted friend insisted. He is very right. I found it tricky to get attuned to it until I was TOLD it was great.

I have no recordings of these myself at the moment. Strange, because I used to have a recording of the Keller quartet that was really quite good if I remember rightly. Might be worth searching for it. This sort of music really begs for a live performance though doesn't it?


(Latest secret tip - Just been rediscovering 'unknown' Dvorak quartets....do you have any recordings? I'm growing to HATE the Prague Quartet. But its all I've got. Try the f minor no.5... )


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Romy the Cat


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Chamber in Boston and everywhere else.
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 op.9 wrote:
I've no idea if the LP will be better. In my experience Mike Dutton really makes excellent transfers. I'd be fascinated though if you could do better...

I do not a lot about Dutton label but when what I was searching for this CD I found a pleasant retailer that cares Dutton:

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/

 op.9 wrote:
BTW. do you listen to mono recordings with one single speaker? I've listen to this recording both ways and I'm still not sure what I prefer. There are moments of real magic with a single speaker... but I think my brain makes some sort of false stereo when I listen with 2 speakers, and I find it easier to separate different musical lines..

Nope, I do not like mono recordings with one single speaker. There is a big and very correct I have to add theory that two speakers might not present mono properly. However, I do not subscribe and I do not like sound at least my Macondo with my channel. I feel that it has to do with… horns. My observation about horns generally is that horns with one channel pick some honk more aggressively then with one channel. I have no idea why.

 op.9 wrote:
I know all three Tchaikovsky quartets well. I think they are ALL masterpieces. No.1 is played the most and seems to me to be a greater work each time. (some moments in the finale are amongst my favourite EVER)! I've just recently got to know no.3 after a good and trusted friend insisted. He is very right. I found it tricky to get attuned to it until I was TOLD it was great.

Interesting, I did not now come across to a lot of people who know, not to mention like Tchaikovsky. BTW, if you like Tchaikovsky chamber music then there is one absolutely great CD that you might try to found, though it becomes too hard to found nowadays. Youri Vamos made up a ballet  with name “Tchaikovsky”

http://www.amazon.com/Youri-Vamos-Tchaikovsky-Belcanto-Strings/dp/B000009KIK

It has a phenomenal compilation of Tchaikovsky’s chamber music played by “Belcanto Strings” with piano quest.

 op.9 wrote:
I have no recordings of these myself at the moment. Strange, because I used to have a recording of the Keller quartet that was really quite good if I remember rightly. Might be worth searching for it. This sort of music really begs for a live performance though doesn't it?

Well, I do not buy a lot chamber music lately. Here in Boston we have WHRB station that does a few time per week LIVE broadcasts from Fraser Performance Studio.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wgbhradio/sets/72157601983642793/

The quality of Broadcasts are phenomenal and no recording can stay near .The quality of performances are not even but sometimes some very bright moment are happens.  Today there was Weilerstein Trio, in fact some of their music was not bad.

http://www.weilersteintrio.com/

Here is the list of Fraser Studio’s broadcasts from the last month of so… It is bad MP3 file but very good for office listening and give some idea…

 op.9 wrote:
(Latest secret tip - Just been rediscovering 'unknown' Dvorak quartets....do you have any recordings? I'm growing to HATE the Prague Quartet. But its all I've got. Try the f minor no.5... )

Do you mean that it is time for you to buy the Otophone SPU? If it not help then there are always the Talich and Hollywood Quartets. BTW, if you do not know them then do no be distracted by Americana name – the Hollywood Quartet. The Hollywood Quartet is an ensemble of the highest caliber imaginable, but  if I remember correctly, they recorded only one Dvorak quartet…

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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