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martinshorn
Germany
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Post #: 121
Post ID: 25043
Reply to: 25042
Upper vs lower range benefits ?
Hi Romy.   
Confused by your statement i flipped a few pages back and just noticed you changed / corrected your opinion along the course. So you're back to white polyester?  

I have 6 different dia's in my storage, all different surrounds, but did not compare any yet. Neither heard them playing further than up to 5k. 
So im curious what to find. Sure, if the graph above is smoothened 1/6th Oct it does not show HF resonances.  

However it indicates lot more power in the lower range, which could be interesting in a 75 or 150Hz Tractrix. 
Of course with small mods in respect to backchamber + phaseplug + shimmer etc. 
At the end, also the WE555 made huge xcursion with a metal surround, so it shouldnt be the showstopper. 
 
 
Any latest opinions about the S2/3... fundamental performances?  
 cheers, 
Josh
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 9,544
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 122
Post ID: 25044
Reply to: 25043
The white suspension only.
I do not think that I changed opinion about anything. I used the white suspension since my initial introduction to of S2 and never likes any other suspensions. I do use metal suspension with S3 driver in my Fundamental channel but is operates between 600 and 100Hz, hardly normal range for compression drivers. With this very limited range the metal suspended S3 does perfectly fine and I do not see a need to waste S2 driver with proper diaphragm in there. Anyhow, my own practice has nothing to do with my thoughts on the drivers. I do feel that S2 with plastic cone is the only good driver in Vitavox compressions line and what I personally use is kind of irrelevant.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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martinshorn
Germany
Posts 110
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Post #: 123
Post ID: 25045
Reply to: 25044
Maybe i confused smth
Hi Romy 
I remember somewhere deep in the forum it was said, with a proper loading (cant recall what u did, feedback, or output resistance etc.. on the amp) you reached a point where the metal resonance got tamed and played better than the plastic. 
Seems like it was a temporary thing, revoked later. Unfortunately i stoped at that point and till today thought the metal is to aim for Smile Problem of reading half...  cheer, josh
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 124
Post ID: 25046
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A typical convention...
Yes, I do feel that letting a diaphragm to idle less (means more loading) you can tame the code resonance, and the ringgy metal cone in particular but it might be done in context of worsening upper transients and over-damping the lower driver knee, a typical sound of the overly loading driver. In my application where the driver was used in a very narrow frequency range it is acceptable. Also, I was not going for overall better sound but I was trying to get out of my Fundamental channel the viola like “melancholic  filling sound”, if you know what I mean. So, I use the drivers in a way how I need and want it and as I said my personal practice should not be relevant to anybody. If we judge an absolute performance of the drivers and if we presume that behind a brand and model there is some presumed targeted quality of sound reproduction then Vitavox S2 should have white cone. It is as simple as this. If you use drivers to accomplish your own creative goals then all bets are off and you can use anything that fulfill you objective.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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  »  New  Romy's Horns..  RE: Still Romy's horns...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     3  45677  04-14-2005
  »  New  Vitavox S2 with Electromagnets..  Cutter Head/Servo...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     91  780335  01-12-2006
  »  New  S2 Hissing Sound..  Cleaning Time Revisited......  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     12  77154  07-18-2006
  »  New  Big mama 1.5" horns......  Crossover point...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     27  157515  09-08-2006
  »  New  Satisfying result: the RMAF Show + Cogent..  A Subject for your post!...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     22  200974  10-25-2006
  »  New  Vitavox S2 driver made in china..  What does it do right?...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     36  184946  12-20-2006
  »  New  Make Your Own Horns..  Texture and Consistency...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     2  21816  01-26-2007
  »  New  Musique Concrete horns..  Electricity and different compression drivers’ diaphrag...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     5  74419  06-12-2007
  »  New  Compression drivers and the “clean signal”...  The NEW “Compression drivers and the clean signal”....  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     14  110539  07-12-2007
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  »  New  The ferrofluiding of compression drivers?..  The ferrofluiding of compression drivers?...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     0  11024  02-20-2009
  »  New  Phoenix..  Mute vitavox...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     2  16221  03-20-2009
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