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Romy the Cat


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Surprisingly pleasant feeling.
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 guy sergeant wrote:
How did you find the 'shop' and the speakers?
The shop and the speakers were fine, pretty much at pair what I expected. I would like do not share my observations about Vox Olympians performance or Sound.  All that I will say is that the most controversial subject of the Vox Olympians - the “ridicules” tweeters thatOlympians has turned our sounding VERY reasonable.

I did not have surprises how Olympians sound; based upon the topology it was very predictable. What did surprised me is that Kevin himself was actually was able to communicate about sound and his ideas about sound not at the level of a typical industry speaker builder or a level of typical stupid DIY. It was actually interesting to listen him – something that not frequently happened as Kevin did not recited the online quoits or audio bumper-stickers that all of them all do not understand themselves. Instead Kevin demonstrated own independent thinking and was perfectly cable to verbalize own sonic objectives and own ideas how he is trying to render his thoughts by audio methods - it was very pleasant to hear. I will be happy to play him my listening room if he fined himself in Boston and I hope he will find it illustrative to the topological and implementation ideas that I pitched. I do not expend invitation to accidental audio people but I feel Kevin would understand what is going on in my room and I think that it is worth to play interesting music for him as he is able to discriminate results.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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decoud
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Acquired
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I have the iplayer recording, 320kbps: if you'd like it let me know where to upload it, or if you want to drop by to pick it up: I am in Kensington Court, opposite the Royal Garden Hotel, which cannot be far from where you are staying. 
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Romy the Cat


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Great
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 decoud wrote:
I have the iplayer recording, 320kbps: if you'd like it let me know where to upload it, or if you want to drop by to pick it up: I am in Kensington Court, opposite the Royal Garden Hotel, which cannot be far from where you are staying. 
yep, thank you. I would certainly. Would lik to have. I will be next week in London, Thursday for B4 upto Friday B8. I migh drop by to pick up the file as we will be staing in the same  Hotel near Gloucester and Hyde park gate. However, if it possibly then it would be fun to record the B8 as well. As I get home on Sept 13 we will figur out how to upload it.... Thank you very much.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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decoud
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Recordings
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No problem: acquiring the bbc iplayer streams is easy: just have no evolved FM recording. I'll send you an email with contact details in case you drop by. 
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de charlus
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Post #: 45
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Oxford
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Romy,

I'm so glad that you're enjoying your trip. Now, this is a rather partisan recommendation since I spent the better part of my youth there, but Oxford is truly a wonderful city for a visit; the disparate but wonderful architecture of the various colleges really needs to be seen, and there's lots of good food to be had. Also, when I was there the chamber music scene was very lively, and I have no reason to suppose that this has changed; you will surely find much to enjoy there.

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Romy the Cat


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From northern Welsh.
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Well, we are planning one day trip from London to Oxford next week. Minwhile, the UK we saw so far is kind of strange. The great museums of London did not do a lot to me, to huge Amy's desapoitment. The concertilized tacky crap of Warwick Castle and Shakespeare museum was literally revolting. The country side on Englang, the little villages  not yet conquested but ugly MBA administration were fenominaly pleasant however. I was made scared by friends before the trip that the British cuisine is garage - what a foolishness !!! We eat like horses, mostly local, and I love each second of it. About the greatest discoveries that I had so far was not the England itself however but the truly stunning  expireance I had being exposed to first in my life production of Hamlet in English. It was truly lighting strike delivered by very good production of Royal Shakespeare Company.  I have seen Hamlet live only years back in Russia but absolutely nothing prepare you to the mind - impact that this thig has in English. The expressionism of  language is truly  standing and I was absolutely mesmerized. Why we do not do out paybacks to sound so consise and so expressive as Shakespeare expresinism is?


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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de charlus
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Purity of the Bard
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Yes, Hamlet by the RSC can be a truly seminal experience in the original English; every academic I know working in literature thinks that their particular field is superior to all others "with the obvious exception of Hamlet". Shakespeare gets to the very nucleus of the human experience and expresses what he finds there in images of the first intensity; no excess, no unnecessary verbosity, no sense of strain, all this rendered still more remarkable by the fact that he was working within the strictures of iambic pentameter and blank verse, strictures serving to suffuse the work with an inner musicality without ever overplaying the fact. That the existential torments of a medieval Danish Prince retain the potency to render many persons of taste and intellect practically speechless to this very day well demonstrates the universality of the Bard's matchless understanding of the human condition. I suppose that the dichotomy between poetry/prose and music is that music is entirely open to the interpretation of he/she who hears it, while the likes of Hamlet does not lend itself to personal ambiguity of purpose on the part of the audience, the alinguistic quality that is both the boon and relative drawback of music being quite the opposite. Language is our most unambiguous mode of expression, and when honed to the pitch of perfection that is Hamlet, sensations are kindled within us with a great, almost surgical precision that leaves our minds reeling in the staggering realization that we have been known.
I'm absolutely delighted that you got to see this, and have found so much else to enjoy in my home country. It is excellent that you've decided to see some of the "real" England too; the exquisite little towns and villages one finds scattered about the Home Counties exist as much as living history as functioning communities, and unlike Warwick Castle, you are likely to be warmly welcomed by real people. Oh, and as you've discovered, the food thing is either a myth, or recalls times long forgotten; excellent food, locally sourced, can be found practically anywhere in the country as long as you don't mind a little rusticity with your fare. It's a shame about the great London museums though, but then, I've long wondered how tourists can derive any pleasure or knowledge from such overwhelmingly large collections; locals can simply visit for a couple of hours here, a couple there, and over a lifetime gain an appreciation for the unimaginably great art treasures of England. For those who have only a few days in London, people tend to become quickly overwhelmed, everything becomes a blur, and many then simply act Japanese, ie taking photographs with their spouse next to every legendary artwork they come across, then moving on to the next one without even really looking at anything. Still, they're good if you have an overwhelming desire to see something specific.

Regards

de Charlus
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Romy the Cat


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Theat was great.
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 de charlus wrote:
Yes, Hamlet by the RSC can be a truly seminal experience in the original English.... inner musicality without ever overplaying the fact. 
yes, this inner musicality, not even musicality but rather some devilish rhythmic  structure with absolutely overpowering intellectual load and aesthetic beautify.  If I read Shakespeare I do not get this devilish hypnotic rhythmic rocking. When I have seen others did it they did not dit it proporly as the did not have that amazing  balance of drama, authority, playfulness, ease and  suprimcy. the guys from the RSC had that all and I NEVER heard any English like this in my life. I was really really out there....


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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decoud
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Cambridge...
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... is more interesting than Oxford, its fine civilisation less unattractively posterized  by those more in awe of it than able to add to it; there is a purity in its otherworldly charm that makes Oxford feel cheaply meretricious by comparison. Shame it is not easy to go from one to the other bypassing London - there was once a connecting trainline but it has been dead for half a century.   
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Romy the Cat


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The UK gallop
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Our England and Welsh gallop of hunting for castles and cathedrals is over total with visiting the Canterbury Cathedral and returning back to London for Bruckner 4. To my surprise among the all spectacles that I saw the Snowdonia Natinal Park impressed me the most, we actually drove all the way through it. The Snowdonia hills are not pretty and in fact they are empty and but ugly. Still in all their emptiness and non-expressiveness they are beateful in own strange way.... It would be fun to walk over the Snowdonia hills, talk to the sheepskin, smoke pipes, live in the slower time and different sense of denension....


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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Bruckner 4 in RAH
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Attended today Bruckner 4 with Oslo Philarmonic under Petrenko. Petrenko for sure looks great but in Tchikovsky kind of level, to conduct Brucker it is a bit too early for him. Amy said that everyone need to start sometimes, perhaps she is right but I am less forgiving. The Olso Philarmonic did not sound interesting at all and the B4 had no potency it migh have otherwise. We had much better sits this time, if anything migh be consider good sits in that shity hall.

Amy become quite bold after concert. She looked truly spectacular, I behaved accordingly, and it made her to have special memory about the concert. So, knowing that I would not want to have this concert recording she sent email to my UK guys under my name that she want to have this recording as her special memories. What a bad kitty!!! I was forced to intoksicate  her in local Gergian restorant as her senses of behavoral appropriateness were blinded by today shining of her own beauty. Anyhow, to keep peace and tranquility in the family I need to find for her the recording of the last night Bruckner 4 despite that the performers was "not keeper".


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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Bruckner 8
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Please, please, please, the British folks, make sure that you have download, record or whatever you do the last night Bruckner 8 performance. Leave the hornblende Bach plaing in the first part alone and preserve that Brucker. Lorin Maazel is gineus and the interpretation that interpretation that he showed last night was each high magnitude that it instantly in my mind elevated him to the most able Brucker conductors alave.  Discard occasional bad play of VPO. The performance last nitght was much much deeper in the meaning. Lucky we who were there as it was truly life time opportunity to hear Bruckner 8 as it was. Lorin Maazel must  to take Viana Philarmonic  to one of those German churches and to live to as a recording.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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guy sergeant
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Recordings
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I now have the 7th & 8th but I didn't get the 4th & don't know how to save it from the BBC website. I expect they'll broadcast it again but I don't know when. If Decoud can grab that one you'll have all 3.

The 8th was impressive.
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decoud
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Obtaining bbc iplayer recordings
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Here is a guide for how to do it (mostly with success). 1. Acquire a UK IP address. 2. install "get_iplayer". 3. Find the PID for the BBC iplayer recording of interest by navigating to it within iplayer and reading off the alphanumeric code in the url. 4. Type the following into a command shell: get_iplayer --type=radio --pid xxxxxxxx where the last term is the pid number.
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guy sergeant
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Saving a BBC proramme
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Beyond my skills I'm afraid. I've set my son onto it but if you could do it it would help!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/b039c6wn
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Romy the Cat


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Help to fight for best version.
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While I am in UK, have UK’s IP as am trying to use your instruction to get the Bruckner 8 from Proms. We are somewhere at the Scotland border, it is 4AM in the morning and for the last 2 hours I was trying to follow your instructions but all my efforts are unsuccessful. I fully admit my idiocy in that but I do not want to admit that I lost my chance to have that Bruckner 8. So, please, do download it and do make sure that this performance is preserved.

Now, how to get the best quality of this Bruckner 8? I do not know what download options are available. As I understand it is .m4a stream but I do not know how low digital compression it is as not of the players I know can play it and I do not want to convert it. Also what BBC broadcasts it then do they play the digitally uncompressed files? Please somebody do look into is as I VERY much would like to have this  Bruckner 8 in highest quality format available, with less conversion possible.  As I get back to US I will find a way to upload it.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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guy sergeant
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No.8
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I have this No.8 recorded from the FM transmission at 16/44 so I can transfer that. My son figured out how to acquire the 320 mp3 version of No4 yesterday although he did imply there was also a WMA version he could get which might be better. I'll ask him to try to get them both. (The FM recordings sound pretty good though).
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Romy the Cat


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Get better and better....
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Well, as I understand the iPlayer version is M4A files, which is low-loss compression of audio part of MPEG-4 video. It would be interesting to get uncompressed (I mean digitally uncompressed file). I also do not know that bits rate in that M4A compression, the one that I see is 128k. I presume that BBS wham they broadest FM they do not compress their stream, so it would be interning to hear Guy’s recording. For sure it will have dynamic compression but it might be (or might not be) better then digital compression. Guy, can you upload your file to some kind of free file sharing service, like http://www.mediafire.com?


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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decoud
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Iplayer options
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As far as get_iplayer sees, there are three options flash standard (aac), flash low (presumably low quality aac), and wma 1. The options are set by adding a --types=x flag. All are lossy, so Guy's FM version may well be better.
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guy sergeant
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Another sharing platform
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I'm having difficulty uploading to mediafire this morning so here's a minute of the Bruckner 8 (from FM) uploaded to Filesnack.

http://snk.to/f-ch5y7sam



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