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JANDL100


Forest of Dean, UK
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That cymbal crash ....
Yes, Tintner may well be my favorite version of the 7th (I have over 30, I think!).   Although Kurt Sanderling with Danish forces runs it quite close.

That cymbal crash, though ...... crass and populist, really - but once you've heard it, leaving it out seems to give a grave sense of anti-climax, disappointment and letdown.   Can't live with it, can't live without it!!


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Romy the Cat


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Can't live with it, can't live without it
Yes, I got the Tintner’s Bruckner, thanks. About the cymbal crash. Can't live with it, can't live without it – it is exactly what it is. With the crash it is wonderful but a bit too cheesy and even tacky. Without the crash it is too anticlimaxick and too blended. If I conduct it I would do something like the finale of the HBO's "Sopranos" last episode and then each member of the band show to the audiences a middle finger :-). Then, after they fire me, I would start to write a book “How to make friends 101”

The caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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dazzdax
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Bruckner VII by the RCO and Haitink
This 1977 recording with RCO and Haitink is also a good one and included the cymbal crash.

Chris
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Romy the Cat


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The Bruckner’s macro-tone vs. Mahler’s Hi-Fi music

 JANDL100 wrote:
I don't know if it will have the "right tone" though - you know, I didn't think this was possible, but I think you are getting even fussier about recordings and orchestral sound as time goes by!!

Of course I’m getting fussier! Sound is not “orchestral sound” but “my sound”. I mean the sound that I hear and therefore why I should not demand to hear more and more satisfactory Sound. Sound has own esthetic value and why we have to automatically dismiss that esthetic value juts because we do not deal with live sound but with sound committed to recording media? Particularly it would be shame to do with Bruckner.

There is not a lot of musical events going on in Bruckner and Bruckner’s Sound is more monochromic, foggy tonal infliction where there is a not a lot of micro-tones but there is a macro-tone. It is not Mahler with “Audio Music” here any no-tone challenged orchestra can play Mahler’s gipsy yodeling very effectually (with slight starching up it would be courtesy to Nanut orchestra :-). Anyhow, I would like to receive that macro-tone in the recording per manses. If not then who the hell need those expensive high end audio boxes? To “get” a given interpretation I do not need any “big playback” and a table boom-box radio is absolutely sufficient…

The caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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More about the Bruckner Adagio’s cymbal crash

 dazzdax wrote:
This 1977 recording with RCO and Haitink is also a good one and included the cymbal crash.

 Chris, I actually know that Haitink with Concertgebouw recording, it was very memorable for me, do not ask why :-), anyhow I do not like it at all.

Talking about the cymbal crash in the Adagio’s.  I am surely for it but it should be done properly. I think it is all upon execution. It is in a way similar to the strokes of the drumstick on the timpani’s side in the Third movement of the Mahler’s “Resurrection”.  It might sound superbly agreeable and appropriate and might sound like a red-painted elephant who is trying to hide within a tomato plantation. If the orchestra in the 7th Adagio has well developed lower octaves, the tempo is well meet the reverberation of the performing hall and the interpretation/playing is properly pop up pressure before the “crash” (not just a rise of volume) then the cymbal crash sounds very in place…

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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The new interesting Bruckner 7

It was 2 days ago – I opened my mails box and found a gift from Yoshi with a few very interesting Japanese CDs.

It was September 17, 1986. The ending his career Eugen Jochum takes Royal Concertgebouw to Japanese tour and plays in Tokyo Bruckner 7. It is recorded “live” and Altus Label released it on ALTO15/6 in their series “Tokyo Live”. What an interesting performance, particularly the first movement

There are many problems here and there in the Concertgebouw play under that Jochum, the second part of Adagio the sections were chasing each other and almost off the tune. But the Concertgebouw is one of the very few orchestras who can play slow and they in the first movement demonstrated a tour-de-force of slow play. There is some very freakish confidence with which Concertgebouw roles to own notes. It hard to explain: it is not really a tempo but a very idiosyncratic prolonging of notes before to collapsing them to the targeted pitch. Very, almost physically pleasant!

The Jochum opening thyme of the first movement has also one of the best ever introduction of the cellos among many others, not to mention that this cellos opening has a specials meaning to me…

After listening the Tokyo performance I decided to learn what else they play during that Japanese tour. To my big surprised I discovered that the entire performance was videotaped and… available on you tube.  God bless that Japanese Island and God bless the internet! Here is the first part, follow up the rest parts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvvzwbcSPo


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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JANDL100


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More great Jochum Bruckner 7 on DVD

I have an EMI DVD of Jochum conducting Bruckner 7.  Orchestre National de France, played in the Theatre de Champs Elysees, Paris, France, on 6th February 1980.

The performance is very special.  The opening especially is pretty much perfect!
You can buy it very cheaply on eBay here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eugene-Jochum-Bruchkner-Symphony-No-7-DVD_W0QQitemZ370037872974QQihZ024QQcategoryZ2288QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

It's coupled with Wagner Tristan & Isolde excerpts from 1964.




Jerry
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yoshi
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Jochum in Tokyo on DVD
Actually, the entire performance of Jochum in Tikyo on Sep. 17, 1986 is available on DVD.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2582492

I have one but it is area coded and I can only play on my computer.

Yoshi
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Romy the Cat


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Happy Birthday, Anton Bruckner!

It is 184 years…. Here is a funny renderation of Happy Birthday tune in Bruckner estimable style. The file is courtesy to John Berky of www.abruckner.com

http://www.abruckner.com/Data/editorsnote/happybirthday/birthday_bruckner.mp3

Rsg, the caT


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Paul S
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Solti/CSO: Pause and Effect
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LondonCSA 2216 (stereo), 1966

Given a work as monumental as B7 and an orchestra as mighty as the 1966 CSO, how do you play it?

While Solti is too smart and experienced to pull out all the stops, I can't shake the picture of someone driving around town in a Lamborghini.  Basically, there's no way to hide all that horsepower, and in this case it becomes a matter of always having far more on tap than you need.  Solti does crank it up when appropriate; way up, in fact.  And IMO it is durning the grandest fortissimos that this version fares the best, because this group can do it with such flair and control.  Solti obviously realizes it, and he patiently waits to invoke this special effect, while working some other inter-sectional effects that the orchestra also handles with aplumb.

I love the first movement of this symphony, and I like the 2nd half of the Addagio and Scherzo, and the Finale.  It's not that I dislike this version of this symphony.  I just can't help but believe it could be presented in a more coherent fashion, musically, even by a less-powerful orchestra.

London actually delivers on their "ffrr" wide frequency response claims; yet they must still ride the gain knobs.  Although they are a lot more subtle about it than others, I can say that hearing the 1966 CSO live was a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

BTW: This was a "sessions" recording.

Paul S



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Romy the Cat


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I hate it!
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I now, this play, I do nit remember details now but I true was not able to listen - it was so bad and off the mark…


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
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The Picked-Over Banquet
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I own another Solti/CSO ffrr (CSA-2228, 1970), this one the Mahler 5.  I thought about the B7, and I put these two album boxes together and immediately got a mental picture of the aftermath of a great, complex banquet where the guests had come and gone, the great hall was empty, and the bounty of food was pretty much untouched.

This Mahler 5, like this B7, is another "perfect" studio recording that displays absolute mastery on the part of the musicians and absolute communication and control from Solti, all to the effect that both the symphonies, though well done,  wind up unfinished.

Best regards,
Paul S
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Romy the Cat


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First Annual East Coast Brucknerathon
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The First Annual
East Coast Brucknerathon!

Friday & Saturday, September 4 & 5
 
Hosted by John Berky &  Ken Jacobson at Ken's home in Simsbury, Connecticut
Tentative Schedule
 
Friday, September 4 (Windsor Locks, near Bradley Airport):
Cocktails and Dinner at a local restaurant (walking distance from airport hotels)
 
 
Saturday, September 5 (Simsbury):
 
8:00AM: Symphony in F Minor
Dong-Ho Lee / Jeju Philharmonic (Korea) (Orch. CD) (2008)
 
 
9:00AM: Symphony No. 1 (1866 Linz / Ed. Carragan)
Georg Tintner / Scottish National Orchestra (Naxos CD)
 
10:00AM: Symphony in D Minor
Gennadi Rozhdestvensky / USSR Ministry of Culture Orchestra (BMG CD) (1983)
 
11:00AM: Symphony No. 2 (1872 Edition / Ed. Carragan)
Herbert Blomstedt / Montreal Symphony Orchestra (2007)
 
12:15PM: Symphony No. 3 (1874 version / Ed. Carragan)
*** By special permission from Delta Records ***
Akira Naito / Tokyo New City Orchestra
 
1:30PM: Symphony No. 4 (Korstvedt Ed.) 
Stephane Deneve / Scottish National Orchestra (Edinburgh, 2006)
 
2:45PM: Symphony # 5
Eduard van Beinum  / Concertgebouw Orchestra (1959)
 
4:25PM: Symphony No. 6 (Hynais Edition)
Ira Levin / Norrlands Opera Orchestra (Lindoro CD)
 
5:35PM: Dinner Break
 
6:00PM: Symphony No. 7 (DVD)
Eugen Jochum / Concertgebouw Orchestra (1986 - Tokyo) (Altus DVD)
 
7:15PM: Symphony No. 8 (DVD)
Takashi Asahina / Osaka Philharmonic (2001) (Exton DVD)
 
 9:45PM: Symphony No. 9
Mvts 1-3: Fabio Luisi / Dresden Staatskapelle  (Sony CD)
Mvt. 4 (Carragan Completion): Akira Naito / Tokyo New City Orchestra (Delta CD)
 
11PM: Conclusion
 
 
Our playlist will be guided to some degree by the distinguished guests who are planning to attend. They include Benjamin Korstvedt, William Carragan, Fanfare reviewer, Robert McColley and KUHF Station Manager, John Proffitt.
 
COST: $25.00 per person to cover cost of food and refreshments. Transportation to and from Simsbury will be provided unless you arrive late and/or leave early.
 
Bradley International Airport (BDL) is located just 10 minutes from my home.  Several nice, but economy hotels are located nearby on Route 75 (Ella Grasso Turnpike). They include the Fairfield Inn, La Quinta Inn, and the Doubletree Hotel. Friday dinner will be within walking distance of these hotels.
 
Questions can be addressed to: john@abruckner.com




"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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It was a bit over two years ago…
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My Grandma died. She was in her 90s…

The funeral was next morning. I learned about Grandma in the beginning of the day but a lot of little pathetic errands did not allow me to leave for Philadelphia right the way, not to mention that there was already no reasons to hurry… I got free from all my routine obligations at 11PM and decided to drive from Boston to Philadelphia over night. I left at 2AM and there were 340 miles ahead of me. I did not take any music with me in my car, I am truly would like to be alone, to think about Grandma…

It was a hot and damped New England summer, middle of the week and the roads were empty. I was driving a convertible with top down, it was night, it was dark and it was in a way free for anything superficial - the only wind was heard… I was thinking about my Grandma… I am not exactly what might be called family-oriented person, but the memories about my Grandma were the most colorful my feelings about relatives who are able to be unconditionally-devoted. I kind of remember from my childhood my Grandma more then I even remember my parents…

I was driving fast, much fasted then might be considered sane. The BMW 330Ci is a dead car performance-wise but when it run over 100 miles per hour than it cares road very nicely. If you were insane enough to drive a convertible Beemer with top down over 130 miles per hour then you know how wind sounds… I was looking for some loud sound that would make prevent hearing myself crying…  There were practically no cars on road and if I saw any I passed them with 40m/h gap. I was gloriously-alone on that Connecticut highway, only wind and the patches of fog….

Somewhere approaching NY I recognized that I need gas; I exited the Route 95 and was searching a gas station. While I was pumping the gas I went to the store to get something to drink. The first thing that I saw in the store was a large shallow cardboard box with mount of used, broken and very anti-hygienic CDs and a big sign “$1.99  each”. On the very top of it, right in my face there was a box with Bruckner 7 Symphony. When I was very little and my Grandma cooked cookies I was always asked her which cookie shell I take. “Take whatever cookie is looking at you…” my Grandma always told me…

I left the store with the Bruckner…

I had no idea who it was. The conductor was Franz Welser-Möst. I never hear about the guy but he conducted at this performance the Proms and the play was quite good. Still the Seventh was hardly audible as NY was closing, I drove 135m/h and the surface noise, wind as and the car noise were much louder then Bimmer’s stock radio might play (that car had sport package that comes with very low-profile but noise at some surfaces tires). I recognized the Seventh only by the fractions of notes, what was kind of enough for me….

It was 4.30AM, it was a dozen miles before the Hudson, it was insanely fast and insanely loud.  Here and there the clouds of fog cover the RT95… I was not suicidal. I did know the road very well, the car was handling very good, and there were practically no cars on the highway. I need to admit that self-destructiveness is a part of my personality but the very cognitive self-destructiveness.  I was not suicidal but I was subconsciously testing the boundaries of Reality. The Reality as I knew it – with my Grandma living somewhere – was gone and the new World Order was coming:  I was “testing” how much I might go away in this New Word….

The few last miles before the George Washington Bridge were particularly “dramatic”. There were some road workers with caps here and there and I each second was expected that I will be arrested. The Route 95 right before the Bridge turned to be a semi-tunnel, the noise from the road and from the zillion puddles sounds like a cannonade. I floored the Bimmer pedal as I saw the ramp for the Bridge’s upper level.  The car jumped at the last puddle like an agonizing animal, the CD skipped and from wherever it was it defaulted to the first track. I broke to the George Washington Bridge’s upper level and suddenly the surround noise stopped. The highway surface was different, the reflections from the road are gone, I felt that it was almost a silence. The Bridge looks stunning: the upper side was covered with dirty fog with the Bridge’s lights trying to break through. The road was leading up and the end of the road was losing into the fog and darkness. The caring towers of the Bridge, the roads between them and the total darkness ahead were like the mouth and jaws of a mythical beast. I was 110m/h and the car was climbing up to the Bridge’s top.

Suddenly it happened. The opening cellos of the Bruckner Seventh got loud enough and then what the whole orchestra kicked in heard that roaring harmony of fate and destiny with witch Bruckner opens his symphony. The Seventh, the mythical jaws of the Bridge behind which use to “be” my Grandma were functioning as a  great counterpoints acting very harmoniously and very sensually .  The new life, the life with Grandma, was beginning and I understood that I will be a different in the New Jersey…. 

Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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There is a new 7th out there....
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Carlo Maria Giulini and Berliner Philharmoniker from 1985.

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Testament/SBT1437

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
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Solti/VPO, 1966
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London ffrr, CSA2216,; stereo LP

I have always found the first movement of this symphony to be the most musically satisfying part of it, and nothing in the cited performance has changed this old bias.  I have to give Solti credit here, however, for enough insight and patience to almost pull this thing together for me.

But let's face it, this symphony does not get really "pulled off" very often, for all the obvious reasons.  It is "Big", it's "Complex", and it's barely coherent for long stretches at a time.  Yet everyone concerned has to get it and render his own part well as part of the whole getting it well to really get it right.  It's got to be frustrating for a musician, to try his best and feel he's "done well" only to hear the playback and wonder where the hell that noise came from, that he'd been thinking all along was a symphony.  And I imagine that this happens more often with Bruckner's 7th than it does with, say, Beethoven's 3rd, or Dvorak's 9th.  Although I tend to be tougher on conductors, I would suppose that they are probably at least as likely to wind up wondering what just happened.

This vintage of the Vienna Philharmonic can play pretty much anything, and they can do it pretty much like any conductor would want.  In this performance, Solti needs only a light rein on the very attentive VPO, and he does not torture them.  He is very patient, but I don't sense he's testing the musicians; rather he is giving the very discursive 2nd, 3rd and most of the 4th movements time to "develop".  He does this as well as any version I remember, given the limits of his reading, and it does serve the symphony, well enough.

In audio terms, this recording is one of the better London ffrrs I own.

Paul S

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Volkmar Andrae
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I'm (re)discovering this cycle, the only one performed by an Austrian orchestra. The Seventh is grand!

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Did you listen the Celibidache's Bruckner 8th?
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I seriously recommend sir...
Best Regards
Esteban Bikic (Spain)
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Romy the Cat


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Celibidache with whom?
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If I am not mistaken he records it with a few orchestras. I have Danish Radio, Munich and Stuttgart. In fact I think I have a box set with symphonies with Stuttgart. Which one you refer to?

The Cat


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Bruckner 7 from Minnesota
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Minnesota orchestra under button of Osmo Vanska played Bruckner 7 and the performance is available to download for free at:

http://www.minnesotaorchestra.org/musicondemand/

It is unfortunately in 256kbps, but it is what it is. The play itself is a bit not in my taste - they play Bruckner too dancey, but it is what it is as well….

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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