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Romy the Cat


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Playback journeys and Music

Interesting…. I had a conversation last nigh with a friend of mine about the design details of a prospective one-stage Milq. He made a suggestion that instead of experimentation with my 5E5P I need to listen some music. I was so surprised that I did not immediately understood what he is wiling to say.

I do not know how you but in my arrays of interests my curiosity in audio and my interest in music very much disassociated. I have written about it many time and many readers were not happy but…. so what?

Audio projects are audio projects, I like them, I enjoy them but they hardly advance my musical interests. As I said before, I practice the “Abstract Audio” and recognize audio as an isolated self-serving field. Sure, audio could produce some advances of stimulations in musical interests but only up to very restricted point.  Audio has sort of wrapper on a gift– can make it more attractive but has completely no affect to the substance of the gift.

Sure, audio perfectly could exist without any musical interests, and there are ton of people our there who practice it. The same with musical interests: the musical interests hardly relate to any audio subjects of even to the existence of entire audio.

I know that some of people reading it might be puzzled as they feel that musical interests are ultimate measurement of audio success. I would not argue against this vision but I would only remind you that I use to be there and I have my motivations and ration to step out (or to step over) from that view.

Rgs,
Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Ronnie
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Audio form and content
 Romy the Cat wrote:
Audio has sort of wrapper on a gift– can make it more attractive but has completely no affect to the substance of the gift.


I do often believe that I miss some content by hearing acoustic music through any random audio system, but perhaps it is only a trick in my (wrong) mind to protect against random meaningful experience.

I'm thinking of audio installations as a form for sound. Sound as a form for music. Music as a form for intent. Intent as a result in the mind, of accepting or rejecting love.

So, does the broken tweeter affect the substance of love? Does fixing the tweeter conjure up happiness?
Nah. But the effect can be the same, and this is how we confuse form and meaning, I suppose.

It's interesting how fiddling with audio can seem to change the intentions of the artist though...
I don't imagine it's possible to enhance the intentions beyond what the artists meant, but I wonder sometimes.
Well, actually I can imagine it, but that seems almost like breaking worldly rules to me. Smile

I listened to Black Sabbath "Vol. 4" in headphones yesterday. Have never heard it sounding so kind and lovely. Perhaps I can learn to release that magic from the headphones and hear the album like that every time.

If you lack that particular album, perhaps the same could be experienced by listening to Mussorgskys witches sabbat music. ;-)
Perhaps it too can sound ...sinister at a distance.
That "Night on a bald mountain" sounds very kind and happy (intent) to me, but perhaps using the diabolic theme (form) was done to build in some distance to his audience (clouding of intent) and perhaps they swallowed that at the time?..

I'm curious about how your separating audio and music relates to hearing live classical music amplified through a bad PA system.
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