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Amir
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EAR Yoshino DAC 4 by Tim Paravicini
I have listened to EAR DAC 4 in two systems.
Specification:
BNC/AES SPDIF input , no serious jitter rejection , no Digital processing , no op-amp , wolfson DAC 8741 , transformer coupled ECC88 output tube stage (5v output with analog volume control to drive power amp).
tube rolling: Telefunken E88CC
the wolfson 8741 is not true multi-bit
jitter reduction is not good
usb input sounds crap
stock ECC888 tubes are crap
it should be used with Pre amplifier

 
as you see there is no special thing in specification but EAR DAC sounds good to my ear.

EAR DAC 4  have not been tested in a 7 way high resolution system. we listened to this DAC in a good sounding 2way Living voice RW in complete EAR system.
setup:
CEC TL0-X Transport -> EAR DAC 4 -> EAR Pre -> EAR 861 Power -> Living Voice IBX-RW
All Purist Neptune Cabling

i should say this player is fuller than many DACs . "fuller" means better and fuller micro dynamics (like sounds of LP versus CD) even at lower sound levels. it sounds coherent and dynamic but in hard rock music it is a-little out of control. control and extension is affected by complex music but very magical sound in less complex music.
I think EAR is good to be in your list.





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Romy the Cat


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Please, stop to extend recommendations.
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/ear-yoshino-digital-analogue-converter-4-digital-analog-converter-31735/#post638728


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Amir
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DAC 4
 Romy the Cat wrote:
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/ear-yoshino-digital-analogue-converter-4-digital-analog-converter-31735/#post638728


OK, you can completely delete this post



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Duc
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ALPS volume pot? Thanks, but no thanks!
that blue motorized ALPS volume pot is utterly waste. the weakest link of the chain of every audio device I've heard. it's a carbon type potentiometer and has a bad effect on the sound unless the pot is used to control a secondary relay ladder resistor circuit which doesn't seem to be the case in the following picture. I would not use any device with that part in it.

 Amir wrote:


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xandcg


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LampizatOr.
Amir,

Do you like LampzatOr? You can ever ask them for custom made one, hardware and/or voicing. So you will have with something sounding (exactly?) how you want it to sound.

IMO, custom made always bring the best result.



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Amir
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Emotional sound
 xandcg wrote:
Amir,

Do you like LampzatOr? You can ever ask them for custom made one, hardware and/or voicing. So you will have with something sounding (exactly?) how you want it to sound.

IMO, custom made always bring the best result.

Thank you .I have never heard lamizator DAC but i have seen his website.It seems he make good DACs but i guess his products do not satisfy me.
I like emotional sound not inpressive sound. It means audio system should be transparent in both micro dynamics and tonality.



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xandcg


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Most like AN UK.
For the record, and wide talking, the LampizatOr sound is on the same boat of Audio Note (UK).



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Amir
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More transparent without volume control
 xandcg wrote:
For the record, and wide talking, the LampizatOr sound is on the same boat of Audio Note (UK).

Ear dac4 is not so transparent and it's volume control should be removed in my idea.
I guess Audionote is good but it's sound is in the same league with ear dac4.I am interested to new CEC dac pure r-2r but it is very expensive.
http://www.cec-international.com/pages/s25.html


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xandcg


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R-2R
Not whiling to try to force you into anything but LampzatOr also have true R2R, as option on some models and default on the top one (Golden Gate). Not to say you can do tube rolling and adapt the sound to your mood.

You could make a call to Lukas and see if he can voice the DAC to sound as you want. I think it is better than keep buying things and later discover it does not sound like you want.

AN will come out with R2R, DAC Six, but that will be really expensive.



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Duc
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R2R
 Amir wrote:

Ear dac4 is not so transparent and it's volume control should be removed in my idea.


Amir,

Good idea. I bet it will make a remarkable difference.
Try to look for your ideal sound among true Multibit R2R DACs. For your information here is a subjective list of best R2R DACs under let's say $7-8K I've searched about them:

Schiit Yggdrasil - An AK4113 chip DAC
http://schiit.com/products/yggdrasil

Audio-GD Master-7 Singularity - it has eight pieces PCM1704UK chips in it
http://audio-gd.com/Master/Singularity%207/Singularity%207EN.htm

Chord Hugo - I'm not sure if it's a true R2R
http://www.chordelectronics.co.uk/product/hugo/

just my $0.02. Hope this helps to make up your mind.
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tuga


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CEC has closed it's doors
 Amir wrote:
 xandcg wrote:
For the record, and wide talking, the LampizatOr sound is on the same boat of Audio Note (UK).

Ear dac4 is not so transparent and it's volume control should be removed in my idea.
I guess Audionote is good but it's sound is in the same league with ear dac4.I am interested to new CEC dac pure r-2r but it is very expensive.
http://www.cec-international.com/pages/s25.html
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I have read somewhere that CEC has closed it's doors...SaveSave


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steverino
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Cec
Well, they may have closed their doors but they left their website open.

http://www.cec-web.co.jp/english_index.html
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