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05-08-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
decoud
United Kingdom
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Outdoor horns
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Outdoor performances always seem to me to fall short of indoor ones, and there are plenty of reasons why this should be so, but there is something attractive about a horn installation in a garden...it ought really to be made of rock, of course, failing that you can now have one of these:

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/products/loud-speakers/os80/


"The Danley OS80’s coverage pattern is 80 deg conical with an operating frequency range that spans 113 Hz to 18 kHz (+/- 3 dB). It has 101 dB SPL sensitivity and a maximum output that rates 127 dB SPL continuous and 133 dB SPL program. A single high performance 12-inch driver and a single 1.4-inch driver energize the Synergy Horn and are hidden away inside a thermal molded poly-composite exterior measuring 32.25 inches high by 26-inches wide by 14.5 inches deep. Total weight is 51 pounds..."
05-09-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post ID: 19322
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Why they shall be horns?
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I mean for all intended purpose horns has restricted radiation pattern and usually larger size then direct radiators. I do not see any needs to use horns for private outdoor installation. In our house we have a lot of outdoorsy live and I did think about some kind out acoustic system outside. Eventually the issues was “magically” resolved by Amy’s introducing me to Bose SoundDock. I have mentioned it before:

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?postID=18831

I would like to note that sound that the Bose SoundDock produce is nowhere near anything that might be respected, in fact it is horrendously interesting as it make music in the way non-recognizable.  Still, the comfort that a portable little radio has that you might take anywhere, the has very long battery, unlimited playlist including all FM stations, and ability to play loud without overload I find truly wonderful.

In addition if you have some kind of all whether system connected to your mine playback then you need to run your main playback when you are in the garden. Do you really want to do it? It is much easier in my view to flip the selector on your local devise and to turn it to the direction where you would like music to go. I am under no circumstances promote the Bose SoundDock devise. There are plenty of the alternative units that might be better. Bu I do feel that the presence of such devises with their ability to access internet and to be managed locally does illuminates (in my view and for me) to have a permanently installed acoustic system outside.

It would be different if you need to entertain let say 50 people outside but for private use I feel the small portable devise would do.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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decoud
United Kingdom
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Post ID: 19323
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Point of audiew
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The idea is that just as you might have a seat in your garden that captures a particularly attractive perspective on it, so you have a point where such a view can be combined with audio playback.  That gardens are rarely silent and often dynamic (trees moving in the wind etc) might actually make it more interesting, a kind of buffer strangely akin to the effect your 0A2's have in the Melquiades... 
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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A Complete garden?
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 decoud wrote:
The idea is that just as you might have a seat in your garden that captures a particularly attractive perspective on it, so you have a point where such a view can be combined with audio playback.  That gardens are rarely silent and often dynamic (trees moving in the wind etc) might actually make it more interesting, a kind of buffer strangely akin to the effect your 0A2's have in the Melquiades... 

Ah, now you are talking about completely different things. To integrate acoustically sound of playback and sound of some kind of proverbial garden out is a complicated task, but the most difficult is to talk about it as no one what own sound your garden has. It is not only no one know but no one understands it.

We have a lot of vegetation around the house and a conservation land right behind the pool. We do not have something that I would call garden. Amy is keep taking that she is about to build one but so far all her talk end up with buying more fashionable gardening gloves. Whatever we might build in your location from my perspective would not make it “interesting outside sound” as I feel that we leave to close to unban center. If someone could furnish at their location a feeling of “complete garden” and to have stimulating acoustics in there then it might be very interesting. We do not have such luxury.

The most stimulating acoustics from vegetation that I even had was an experience I had good 12 years back but I do remember it very vividly. I was driving across New Hampshire somewhere 2-3 hour from Boston and I desired to stop in the middle of road to pee. Steeping from the side of the road lead me to walk a bit more into the woods as it was very beautifully and eventually I found myself in amazing paradise. It was a whole forest of probably 150 feet evergreen with branches growing only atop. So it was essentially enormous space covered with tall naked trunks of the trees and roof made with tree branches. It was very moist in there and smelled like the place was infested with white mushrooms. Surprisingly it was practically no sound of birds in there, it was there but it was very soft. There was also no wind. I walk and then decided to pee, sorry for the details. I did the peeing and was absolutely shocked the sound of urine hitting ground - it was very load and very large. It sounds like I was dropping water to the ground from 10 feet wide pipe. I spend in there quite a lot of time, screaming, singing in there and wondering how wonderful the sound of that place was. It would be fun to put audio right there and to undertake the Feierlich Langsam Doch Nicht Schleppend…


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
05-09-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
decoud
United Kingdom
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Post ID: 19325
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Envelope size
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The interior of a forest would be a wonderful environment, it is true, but I wonder if a smaller envelope of greenery could have something of that effect: the key it seems to me is the synthesis of echo absorption and a subtle, shifting, organic noise background. 

I have an external space that is like a tall, walled courtyard, and would like to put four of those deep, rich green walls Patrick Blanc does, like the one at the Pershing Hall hotel in Paris (http://www.verticalgardenpatrickblanc.com/),  but for the ridiculous price he charges one could probably buy a good chunk of New Hampshire forest. And it would be some way off the effect.
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guy sergeant
United Kingdom
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Outdoors with Vitavox
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05-12-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Outside playback.
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Guy, thanks. We are sitting now in backward, resting after heavy landscaping project. The project consisted of Amy picking up some weeds for 5 minutes and then I hit my leg with 35” wood spiting ox. After all she resuscitated me and we firmly conceded that two lazy bitches as we are shall not do any work themselves but need to hire help. We are ornamentating to our yard and I showed the picture above to Amy. She said that it was awesome! What a woman!

As I seen they are Murray Johnson setting. I always liked him.  The setup about is not “stereo for garden” but the whole playback taken outside. I feel that this is slightly different then what decoud was thinking.

You see, to have some kind of secondary playback in garden what you listen some tunes while you sip wine if one thing. To make the main system to sound outdoor appropriately are absolutely another objectives. I need to admit that high-end playback performing outside is beautiful thing and I did hear a few. To make it to sound outside balanced is quite complicated.

Outside we lose a lot of lower octaves and it required a LOT of power to take it back. All bass outside become pretty much become open baffle, we with horns do some advantage but only to point. I do not have an experience of setting up outside playback but it is a very noble objective to which I very much applaud.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
05-18-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
zztop7
Edmonds, WA
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GREATEST ULTRA Low Bass horn
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http://phys.org/news/2013-05-sheerwind-invelox-turbine-power.html
I tried to start this in a New Thread, but I did not know how members start a thread.   Build a custom driver & throat adapter for this & shake a city.   Some pictures are worth a million words.   zz
05-18-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
decoud
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Garden omnidirectional horns
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I suppose something like this, but attractively sculpted, and without the vertical partitions, could be an interesting omnidirectional horn to put in a garden. Rather like a mobile sculpture, but with its dynamics in the auditory range. It would certainly beat a garden gnome.
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tuga


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Not horns, but attractive nonetheless...
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Not horns, but attractive nonetheless...the promotional video is beautiful and healthily devoid of any audio crap-talk:

http://vimeo.com/57380335

http://www.architetturasonora.com/AS/

Cheers,
Ric




"Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira Pascoaes
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ShuffleSk8Ter
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Post ID: 19768
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Mee too
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I pulled a mono set of these exact looking horns out of a movie theater they were installed in 1946 Smile

the system consisted of 2 of these bass cabs and one gigantic dual compression driver horn on top for the entire theater

I am no horn guy and looking for them to goto  a good home



Lawrence
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