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ArmAlex
Iran
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Joined on 02-15-2009

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Post ID: 17098
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Creative listening
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Isn't this how we listen to reproduced music?

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Best regards,

Armen

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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 9,560
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 2
Post ID: 17099
Reply to: 17098
Some confusion on my part.
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This post was posted twice before at this site and I have deleted it as I sincerely thought that the poster had language encoding problem as the characters were broken. Armen has sent email informing me that it was exactly how he meant his text to be. I do not know what it is all about but anyhow, my apologies for deletion of the thread previously.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Markus
Posts 68
Joined on 03-07-2007

Post #: 3
Post ID: 17100
Reply to: 17099
Are you serious?
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Totally legible, and a relevant, if cheeky, question as well.
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manisandher
London
Posts 156
Joined on 09-05-2008

Post #: 4
Post ID: 17101
Reply to: 17098
Here's my translation
fiogf49gjkf0d

This message serves to prove how our minds can do amazing things! Impressive things! In the beginning it was hard but now, on this line your mind is reading it automatically with out even thinking about it, be proud! Only certain people can read this. Re post if you can.

Unfortunately, I don't agree that this is amazing at all or that only certain people can do this.

Armen, are you suggesting that reproduced music doesn't have to sound exactly the same as live music and that it's actually how our minds interpret reproduced music (I guess to have the same effect as live music) that is important?

Mani.

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N-set
Gdansk, Poland
Posts 456
Joined on 01-07-2006

Post #: 5
Post ID: 17102
Reply to: 17101
Tip of an iceberg
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This code of Armen, 7H15 C0D3 0F 4RM3N, (I also think it's not
very demanding--every reasonable teenager would
break it easily) is a great toy-model  showing the error correcting
power of the barin-a continuous stugle to
make sense out of the sensorial chaos it gets. Hearing is much more
dimensional (infinite-dimensional) than just linear reading with finite
alphabet, so go ahead and imagine what the brain does to
patch the audio artefacts. This all somehow connects to the claims
made by some that SET's by their harmonic spectrum make the error correcting
job easier for the brain as they do a sort of pre-error-correcting, "naturalizing"
the harmonic spectrum of the reproduced sound. I've never seen any serious
scientific investigation of those claims though...(most probably it does not exist).
4NYW4Y, 3XC3113N7 3X4MP13, 4RM3N!

N-537



Cheers,
Jarek
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ArmAlex
Iran
Posts 82
Joined on 02-15-2009

Post #: 6
Post ID: 17103
Reply to: 17101
Secret code
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Manisandher wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't agree that this is amazing at all or that only certain people can do this.
Mani I didn't ment this code is so special that needs power of MI6+CIA to decode it, but how are brain acts.

Mani wrote:
Armen, are you suggesting that reproduced music doesn't have to sound exactly the same as live music ...
It does have to sound exactly the same as live music, but unfortunately it's impossible.
...and that it's actually how our minds interpret music...
My post begins with a question so its an open debate.


Regards,
Armen

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ArmAlex
Iran
Posts 82
Joined on 02-15-2009

Post #: 7
Post ID: 17105
Reply to: 17102
Fool or genius?
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Dear N-set, I think there is 2 scenario in listening to reproduced audio:
1-In lesser systems "code" algorithm works, it means brain works in error correcting mode.
2-This is where true high end begins, The system fools your brain, and you think you are listening to real music.

Regards,
Armen
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bernie_f
Posts 10
Joined on 12-16-2009

Post #: 8
Post ID: 17106
Reply to: 17105
No system on this planet will sound exactly like live
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It will give an interpretation of the things you throw at it, the rest is done by our brains. Your brain (and your current mood = current emotional status of your brain) will take you to real music. It works like this:
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bernie
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