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Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #15: More to come? by martinshorn on 2018-03-17 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Goto SG-370DX measurement in Audio For Dummies ™  30 Replies 
Hi Daniel, is there more coming up, do you have more Goto Drivers? Id be really interested to see a SG16 graph :)Keep us posted with ur setup, findings, listenings......

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #14: Another Speth Interview by martinshorn on 2018-03-14 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Goto SG-370DX measurement in Audio For Dummies ™  30 Replies 
http://tempuri.org/tempuri.html Looks like 370 to me :) at the bottom there some specs (though the crossover is not absolutely correct, i asked Klaus) ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #4: Horrible! by martinshorn on 2018-03-13 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: A great article from Peter Qvortrup in Audio News  4 Replies 
this article is a pain to read. Its from and for old bitter „everything was better in the ol‘ times“ folk. It’s blindly (non selective/ unspecific) supporting any current vintage hype. Also it measures progress exclusively by the top notch? What a no...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #12: Power response by martinshorn on 2018-03-12 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Goto SG-370DX measurement in Audio For Dummies ™  30 Replies 
ya that’s likely where the truth goes. I had it once with electrostatics. Theyre most bitchy in regards of correct positioning in the room as we all know. They’re a lifetime task to find DPOLS. I tried to move around and found huge difference. Some c...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #10: Measures and right interpretation by martinshorn on 2018-03-12 
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Yea. In some systems, mostly trivial / conservative direct radiators in small monitor size, respond to the normal interpretation of frequency graphs very well. With more exotic and uneven dispersing systems it seems to get more difficult. I had it co...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #7: Window vs sweep duration by martinshorn on 2018-03-12 
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Hi Daniel. I mean the window, after you sweep 10 seconds, and fuzz shows the IR. You can change the IR windowing on the preferences panel... like crop/cut the analyzed part of e.g. 1ms before the peak and then duration X behind the peak (here i asked...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #4: Oops - mixed up by martinshorn on 2018-03-12 
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Hi Daniel. Sorry i meant the throat, not the mouth. But i think you mean the same :) Just for anyone else reading this not to scratch their head. I heard that on cheap plastic horns the mouth often rings, is loose, or not perfectly centered and then ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #2: Great to see! by martinshorn on 2018-03-12 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Goto SG-370DX measurement in Audio For Dummies ™  30 Replies 
Hi Daniel, great initiative! More of that :) Can you tell us more how u measured??Like loudness, distance, settings? I know that Fuzz likes to sweep too short (0.1 sec. logsweep) and allows many crappy windowing settings...Maybe a nearfield (close to...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #12: Try em all :) by martinshorn on 2018-03-09 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Coral x-viii in Horn-Loaded Speakers  11 Replies 
No i dont have oppinion about this specific one. The room response looks ok. Take the XO, try it, sell it :) but yes, the acourate XO requires 3 Amps then. Still, worth it!...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #10: More mathematical approach by martinshorn on 2018-03-09 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Coral x-viii in Horn-Loaded Speakers  11 Replies 
Hi. Well the behringer belongs probably to the most famous and also to the worst quality wise. Sure the passive sound better...Id go with the learnings from the behringer and apply it in a clean xover, either active or passive or even digital - but n...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #8: Passive only via Q by martinshorn on 2018-03-09 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Coral x-viii in Horn-Loaded Speakers  11 Replies 
Hi, true thats why i wrote designated amp (Active). As a passive xover thats rather difficult, so try a low Q filter type that increases steepness slowly. Like a Bessel (Q 0.585) or if youre skilled calculate your own Q smaller than 0.5 (LR) as a 8-1...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #6: Sometimes measures are faster - sometimes slower by martinshorn on 2018-03-09 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Coral x-viii in Horn-Loaded Speakers  11 Replies 
Hi alex. Sure the 12 incher starts narrowing around 700. But the horn does too. And in that area you cross both at -6dB. which contributes to narrowing vertically. The magic is, to merge in a way that off axis its not getting too odd in a complex sum...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #2: Vertical mouth edge diffraction below 1k by martinshorn on 2018-03-09 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Coral x-viii in Horn-Loaded Speakers  11 Replies 
Hi panwitzResist the idiot-fashion of crossing too low. I recommend at least 1k for such Coral, 2nd order or higher. Also it gives nice lobing transition with the 12 inch (could even improve crossing 1.2 or 1.4). These biradial horns (i love the dept...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #36: Couldve told me yesterday ;-) by martinshorn on 2018-02-12 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: The 5-ways from Germany. in Horn-Loaded Speakers  38 Replies 
Hi Romy. You hit some point. But thats half obsolete. I shouldntve tried to gather the stuff for the VO copy. That visit to Klaus opened my eyes. I already switched my priorities a view times. From tonality, then resolution, to latest color (VO) but ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #34: Buy or die by martinshorn on 2018-02-12 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: The 5-ways from Germany. in Horn-Loaded Speakers  38 Replies 
Hi Romy. Sure but its nice figuring out main contributor to specific sounds. Inspiring DIY people to change flavors to their prefs. I dont like the buy or die mindset. I just managed after lot of time & money to get my components to copy the vox ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #32: Explanation of magic dust... by martinshorn on 2018-02-12 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: The 5-ways from Germany. in Horn-Loaded Speakers  38 Replies 
Hi everyone,Ive been tracking this exciting conversation for some days. One from outside may think this is weird, we are making a lot of air about some sound-description without getting to the point. Im (or was) normally more rational. And if I read ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #25: Small misunderstandings :) by martinshorn on 2018-02-05 
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]Folding introduce a bunch of resonating chambers and cost audio coloration in most of the cases that do MASK OUT the transient dynamics but folding itself should not have an impact to dynamics itself.[/quote]Might be the...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #23: Some more background on that system by martinshorn on 2018-02-05 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: The 5-ways from Germany. in Horn-Loaded Speakers  38 Replies 
Hi Romy, Again, good words (don't want to kiss your ass ;) ). Though, I get your point and agree, one should not think that this winter picture means Goto sound cold (u never know what one could read out of it) . What Klaus also highlighted, is...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #20: Yes its good to know ! by martinshorn on 2018-02-05 
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Hi Romy,I agree its a relief to hear finally someone describing something. Because all the mysterious dust around it makes one really curious :) And you cant hear them anywhere.So i got really "tensioned". Finally... and id like to share about it. As...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #18: One more point... by martinshorn on 2018-02-04 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: The 5-ways from Germany. in Horn-Loaded Speakers  38 Replies 
just to stress out: like live... Does not refer to a specific audiophile plastic three dimensional rendering only. It was so live, .... how to say... “alive” like you could throw a piece of meat to the speakers and one would believe that “it” will gr...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #17: One hell of experience by martinshorn on 2018-02-04 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: The 5-ways from Germany. in Horn-Loaded Speakers  38 Replies 
Hi everyone Guess what! Just had a visit to this system last night. Upfront, the owner - thank you Klaus again - is a very welcoming and friendly fellow. But also remarkably reasonable and decent. Total absence of any need to show off. You rather nee...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #13: Amen! by martinshorn on 2018-01-30 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: The remarkable moments in Audio. in Audio Discussions  16 Replies 
i can only nodd  Its worth to know, seeking for advise, that majority of people want to recommend what they have/do/did. Regardless of what it is, they want to tell you...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #14: Its the chamber by martinshorn on 2018-01-22 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: 4-way horn system Prelude in Horn-Loaded Speakers  13 Replies 
hi maxx    Just found this by accident. Had similar problems in my K-horn when i started to use it higher.  I found out that the 8 Liter prechamber caused the resonance in mine about an octave higher than you seem to have yours.  That...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #2: And how to combine both in 1? by martinshorn on 2018-01-22 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: Wet/Dry ™ configuration for midbass. in Horn-Loaded Speakers  1 Replies 
Hi Romy.  Interesting point as i had similar perception along my recent  I ran an 8inch driver with fronthorn. Then just got my hands on a pair of RFT L-3701 (or 3702). http://tempuri.org/tempuri.htmlA fabulous driver with exactly those parameters. T...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #12: Good points - but depends on the user by martinshorn on 2018-01-04 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: How difficult is it to achieve Vox Olympian sound in Horn-Loaded Speakers  17 Replies 
hi RomyI don’t feel much friction with your response. Thats mostly fine. But I replied assuming such a question is raised by someone who has experienced DIY background and basics how to „design sound“.This is of course a precondition. Of course we ca...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #10: Impossible? by martinshorn on 2018-01-04 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: How difficult is it to achieve Vox Olympian sound in Horn-Loaded Speakers  17 Replies 
you think humans can fly to the moon but no one can copy the VO?Kevin used some magic tricks and got them blessed by indian guru, applied star dust, and beyond physics? Or simply you didn’t listen to them yet or personally find it not worth?...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #8: Measures by martinshorn on 2018-01-04 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: How difficult is it to achieve Vox Olympian sound in Horn-Loaded Speakers  17 Replies 
ah forgot. Have some measures to give you an idea. First, this is an (what i use as good budget replacement for the TAD2002 tweeter) a JBL LE85/ 2420 in that trumpet. Green is a „normal“ horn response for comparison. Red is the JBL 2312 trumpet: [url...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #7: Haha my topic :) by martinshorn on 2018-01-03 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: How difficult is it to achieve Vox Olympian sound in Horn-Loaded Speakers  17 Replies 
hi. That’s a nice topic. I studied the VO like a maniac. For me there are 3 topics. First was obvious, easy, the horns. The bass horn for the ak151 is housing a rear chamber slightly open, giving the injector channel - that creates a lot charme, flav...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #2: Important person i met once by martinshorn on 2017-12-21 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: The remarkable moments in Audio. in Audio Discussions  16 Replies 
hi Romy. Nice topic! I have a very nice memory. I started very young, supported by a friend who tought me a lot and gave me books to study. I learned the basic formulas and started DIY speakers from purely technical perspectives, graphs, math, calcul...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #183: In the middle??? by martinshorn on 2017-12-12 
Browse the content of the threads in new Window  Thread: How to USE “Resonating Oops” in loudspeakers in Horn-Loaded Speakers  184 Replies 
Hi Romy  Im just trying to imagine that. If you got to keep the vertical offset small, between the ways, this would rip a hole in the middle, wouldnt it ?  Also bit surprising as i thought you liked the injector on the ground initially. I hope I unde...
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