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cv wrote:

Yes, well - I wasn't really saying much; just a vague hypothesis. There is some tendency for lower Rp tubes, (and somewhat related) tubes with a certain harmonic structure, to sound more romantic, and hence impart that quality to music regardless of the content, the 6C33 has the lowest Rp out there, and is not the most linear, and yet you've found that somehow it manages to keep out of the way of the musical expression, or even enhance it in some ways? It seems to polarise tube fans - many won't touch it, saying it sounds solid-state... ie they are missing the romanticism (despite it being not that linear....) Something like a 10Y is rather clear/lean sounding *and* measures it too... so - along the lines of some of your comments  - what exactly is the 6C33 doing? I don't have that much experience with either tube, so these are just some wishy-washy thoughts... sorry I don't have more time to elaborate more clearly!

I have heard criticism of some people that 6C33 sound like solid-state and missing some romanticism. I disagree, not to mention that I practically never heard any good sounding amp around 6C33 – not because the tube but because the people who cooked the tube. The 6C33, with all appeared simplicity, is a difficult tube to get good sound out of it. In fact among all 6C33 amps that I ever heard in my view only ML2.0 was able to get right sound out of 6C33: the ML2.0 had no even references to SS or to tube sound. The SS vs. tube is for AA or DIYAudio.com - level of audio, the ML2.0 was beyond it…

Anyhow, I am not a huge fan of romanticism-addiction that some many DHT fans look like have. Romanticism is great but if music is not call upon romanticism then what would you do? I understand that those people who complain that 6C33C has “missing romanticism” understand neutrality in a different and very primitively way, so who care what they think. A two-year old child might have an Opinion why Moon is moving 2” further from Earch each year. Does anybody care what this child thinks?

I do not know what 10Y does – I never used it but from comments of people who have the similar to me detaste for the tubey “artificial melancholy” and pulled out-of-ass phony romanticism I concluded that 10Y MIGHT be different then the other DHT’s casual suspects. I do not know how accurate it is.

Anyhow, I kind of stuck with 6C33C and her definition of neutrality - I am quite comfortable with it. I begin to question my move toward to a single stage, but this is whole other subject. BTW, I do not know if you have seen it but David have made a transformer for my YO186:

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/GetPost.aspx?PostID=9689

I know you were interested.

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