Rerurn to Romy the Cat's Site

Ok, Chris, I will take a bite. I do agree that some of my judgments, particularly those that violate the other people’s desire to hear specific agreeable things from me, do derive from my inherent character defects. However, my handicap judgment permit me to ask myself questions that do makes sense.

I understand that you explain prices, comfortably forgetting to mention that Feastrex might not even use the Permendur.  Yep, Permendur is a marketing trade word that there many alloys that at different time and by different companies was called Permendur. The ingredients with all those Permendurs are different and the price/comfort working with greatly varies as well. So, when you “explained why the price is what it is” I think it is does make since to explain price not from position of Feastrex metallurgic anonymity but from the position of consumer advocacy. If to accept your explanation as the explanation then all that you said that to make a whole drive from Permendur is very expensive and very difficult and it might be so. However, making a whole driver from Permendur (the polls, the return passes and so on) is juts unnecessary waste of Permendur. The near-saturation Permendur advantage are no in the picture at all. If the driver has not enough surface under the coil and the core is driven to “hot” then make the coil larger. Permendur does have advantage in the speed of re-magnetization and it might lead to faster transients, even though I did not hear you ever complain that the non-Permendur Feastrex driver experience any HF transients deficiencies and need for improvement. Then is the key point. The Permendur expose it’s benefit ONLY while it is being magnetized by filed coil. So, a ring made by one of the Permendurs inserted into magnetic pathway does make sense if the capitalization on Permendur is what Feastrex want to accomplish. This Permendur ring does “cost nothing”, Chris, and it was what I inquired with my machinist in past.  To make the whole driver from Permendur as the Feastrex claim to be is just a ridicules waste, completely not justifiable by any reasons. In this context to defend “how expensive it to make” is absolute irrelevant. With the same success you can glue Fabergé Eggs on the back of the driver and to propose that the driver cost $2.000.000 each. Yesterday, I spoke to a very knowledgably guy who is working with theories and practice of magnetic cores for 40 years and asked him about any possible benefits of making whole magnetic pathways from Permendur. He was laughing and suggested that it is a complete waste of money and material.

cdwitmer wrote:

I explained why the price is what it is. Whether that's a bargain or a waste of money is something that I am not in a position to debate, and I made that clear at the outset. People are free to make those value judgments on their own, and they will make those value judgments on their own in any case, regardless of any opinon I might have on that subject. But quite apart from that, some people might find it useful to know why the price is what it is.

Well, and those value judgments on my own is something that I am trying to do. I have to note that you Chris is right that there is a great dose of speculations in my views regarding of Feastrex. What however is interesting in this debate is that Chris points out the speculative character of my remarks but do not acknowledge the none-speculative facts. The $40,000 for a $1000 driver with Fabergé Eggs and to play them with only simplistic music and at no more 68dB? I think somebody needs to explain to me something that I do not understand…. I wish someone would stop to talk nonsense and start to talk about the Sound of these things…

Rerurn to Romy the Cat's Site