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drdna wrote:

Romy, I think you are asking if I have the Edgar subwoofers also.  Yes, I do, like giant woodgrain refrigerator in the living room.  So I do get some bass response.

Yes, I was asking about the Edgar refrigerator subwoofers. Without them it would be difficult to take serious anybody commenting about the bass coming from LP. I really hate when people with puffy Thorens Turntables and full-range Louther speakers keep assuring me that they are getting a “right” buss from their cartridges.

drdna wrote:

The Decca cartridges sound different from every other cartridge I have heard. Before this, I had crafted my stereo around trying to get closer to the sounds right and occasionally there would be a moment on a particular record where I would hear the Sound.  This record would become a reference for me and meanwhile I focused on getting the balance of emotional liquidity with my Koetsu or my 2A3's and the technical accuracy with my gold and silver wiring mixtures. However, when I heard the Decca Jubilee, I heard the Sound.  And it was just there very plainly.  In the same way when you go and listen to a concert, you are not adjusting your seat or your ears -- because the music is just there, likewise I kind of stopped worrying about the stereo with the Decca.  In many ways, the Decca may be seen as deficient: it is not tonally perfect, it is not a super great tracker, etc.  But, for whatever reason, the Sound is there, and the minor technical deficiencies do not matter.

Interesting comment. It turned out that the local guy who I thought have Decca has in fact not Decca but EMT cartridge. So I have no change to hear Decca locally. Still, from your comments I sumized that Decca might be an interesting all around needle not necessary a right chose to compliment my SPU cartridge. I am looking for more an anti-SPU-type of sound. From what you say the Decca might have a LOT of similarity with SPU…

drdna wrote:

Yet, I think the Decca Reference will best suit you.  (Tell Warren I sent you and he will give you a good deal.)  The Reference is a different cartridge.  I listened to this in my system for a few weeks but I ultimately did not keep it.  If I won the lottery I would have both the Jubilee and the Reference however. The Reference loses a small bit of the Sound, which I was unwilling to accept.  The trade off is that it then gives you perfect tracking, inner detail, accuracy, emotion, and everything else that the typical audiophile characteristics will describe as glorious.  It is clearly more the engineer than the artist.  But among engineer type cartridges, I will make this analogy.  If van den Hul or Clearaudio are like reading very complex elegant engineering explanations of suspension bridge structure, then the Decca Reference is like walking on the Golden Gate Bridge on a warm Spring day.

Very interesting! This is in a way exactly what I am looking for. Who made them? I mean as I understand it is not the same Decca London that was 40 years back (reportedly very good cartridges at that time) and noondays it is a small none-connected company that juts use Decca name. Adrian, do you have any stats how the new Decca cartridges age? I mean, sine I am not will be playing them for a long time I wonder if I will be able to get out of this damping more then 5-10 years. Also, who is Warren that you told above?

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