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In the Thread: Michael Fremer Continuums…
Post Subject: It is nothing personal, Sonny....Posted by Romy the Cat on: 7/30/2008

I always feel that whatever I say isn’t personal enough.

 markus46 wrote:
This is in no way a criticism, but English is obviously not your first language.  Your posts are littered with spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors which make it (for me at least) to understand what you are trying to say.  Perhaps this explains why Mr. Fremer thought you were mocking Continuum and himself rather than just himself?

I do not think so. It looks like you have  no difficulties to read it but even you, through all your difficulties, understood that that the initial post was the Framer mockery and use Continuum juts to serve the exotic Australian framework. It is not that my English was an impediment but the frame of the Framer’s dim mind. Here is where he does not need a criticism but lobotomy…

 markus46 wrote:
Despite claiming that you are not criticising the Continuum turntable, you go on to do just that in your subsequent posts!  For example “I have my doubts that Continuum team is able to manufacture Sound instead of rendering thier abstract mostly irrelevant design principles.”  Sounds like criticism to me!

.. and if you read the rest context of the thread then you might discover why I came up with this supposition. My site is not a republican talk-radio and there is need around here to pull taken out of context phases and try to advances your own agenda.

 markus46 wrote:
I hope you don’t mind if I explore your comment further.  Let’s take one design principal mentioned by Continuum in their literature.  Speed stability.  Irrelevant?  You may not consider it to be the single most important function of a turntable, but surely you can’t say it’s irrelevant!  Another design principal – Isolation from external vibrations.  Seems a decent enough principal to me.  Can you please list for me those design principals that Continuum document that you feel are irrelevant?  As important is WHY you think they are irrelevant. Your credibility is at stake here.

There is absolutely nothing at stake here and my reply is not attempt to claim my credibility.  The Speed Stability, the Isolation from external vibrations and many other things in the way how you appear used them are not the factors of design but the tradable commodities of marketing efforts. They do not sell to you the actual Speed Stability of the presumed results that derived from Speed Stability but they “sell” to you a collection of efforts that according to them implies alleged speed stability.

 markus46 wrote:
At least they don’t claim that their platter can be manufactured with different materials to tune the sound for different amplifiers!  Or (get this) that the art of turntable design was the art of recognizing and managing emotions in materials.  What sort of dim wit would fall for that?  Oops!

The “art of recognizing and managing emotions in materials” was a direct quote from designer of Micro Seiki, it was exactly what he told me, at least it was what was translated by my interpreter. What is interesting is all of it that I just present it as somebody else quote and ‘am not looking anyone who would “fall for it”. Is you are in a search to something to “fall for” then it sounds like it is your personal need…

 markus46 wrote:
In another Fremer & Co. bashing, you claim Fremer and his ilk “… are completely ignorant in more or less civilized assessment procedures. The only real motivation for TT upgrade (or change of any audio component) should be a person clearly defines for himself what specific sonic shortcomings his current TT has. Then, ONLY AFTER THEN, a new TT should do nothing else but addressing those specific shortcomings.”

Now this comment is just plain silly.  Firstly, the job of a reviewer is to write reviews.  Are you seriously suggesting that because a reviewer is perfectly happy with their turntable at home and can find no specific sonic shortcomings, that they should be disqualified from writing reviews of turntables!!!

Secondly, surely it is possible that listening to a new product may highlight shortcomings in existing gear - shortcomings that you never new you had.  It would be a very closed minded individual who (once happy with the performance of their music reproduction system) would shut out the possibility that improvement might just be possible.

Yes, what I stated above is one of the major postulates of my audio views:

http://www.romythecat.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=432

I do not disagree that other ways are possible, and externafication in some cases might bring positive results. Still the use of the externafication methods is a quite complex subject and I would like do not go into it, particularly because I feel that looking at the way how you think about audio it might be above your head (no condescending intended).

Rgs, Romy the Cat

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