Rerurn to Romy the Cat's Site
In the Forum: Musical Discussions
In the Thread: Beethoven IX and Fürtwängler
Post Subject: Perception is RealityPosted by Romy the Cat on: 8/11/2007
 dazzdax wrote: |
| The recording of Beethoven IX with Fürtwängler is cosidered by many as the non plus ultra among the interpretations. The recording is bold and very impressive indeed, but the interpretation is of course outdated and is one of a required taste. Fürtwängler treated this symphony as if it is a form of meditation, a religious experience. Although I must admit that this almost "religious" experience can be felt, this could never be the approach Beethoven had intended. |
|
I would very much disagree that 1942 interpretation is in any ways outdated, in fact from a certain perspective it has no time references. I do not see in Furtwangler any religious “experience” in fact quite opposite, perhaps that I so like it. Regarding the Beethoven’s intentions, that would be more complicated. I do not value music in a way “how composer intended”, and I hardly look at music this way. Knowing the history of the 9th I would agree that the Furtwangler 1942 was not something that Beethoven have in his mind but the Beethoven’s wish does not affect anything...
| dazzdax wrote: |
| It is also strange that such a piece like the Beethoven IX with it's "humanistic" content (Schiller's text) could get the approvement from the Nazi's. Maybe the Nazi's had altered the chorus text somewhat. |
|
And why do you think that Nazi did not feel that they had the best humanistic intentions? The Nazism is sold to mostly gullible public in severally corrupted, demonized and simplistically-primitive way. Many governments, and parties of interests cash out the publicity about the “evil Nazi people”, failing to knowledge that the most horrible things that represent is winning the world, led by the most vocal “profitable” Nazism opponents… Anyhow, I do not see any contradiction between Naziis and “Ode to Joy”…The Ode is juts a literature and the perception is Reality.
BTW, many of you might be surpassed but if I know anything about Sound and the nature of Audio Methods then I have to admit that I have learned from that “Magnetophone” recording much more ABOUT AUDIO then anyone could imagine. It might be the subject of a separate audio thread….
The CatRerurn to Romy the Cat's Site