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guy sergeant wrote:

He is in a difficult position. Does he make a the driver using the tooling/knowledge/supplier information he has acquired from Vitavox(and change nothing)? This would be actually be a Vitavox S2 (not a repro) or does he try to make a better new version. The people in the far east who are interested in and use these would probably only want something made exactly as per the original one. If I were in his shoes, this is what I'd do. Later one could look at doing a modified 'improved' version. I'm not sure that given the investment involved, it would be wise to make something new at this point.

I did not detect that Mike was difficult position. In those few conversations that I had with him he was quite rational and I did not detect any difficulties, as least in the limited scope of the subjects that we had under discussion.

Anyhow, Guy, I very much disagree with your expressed. I do not know if it is Mike’s attitude or your own views but regardless of whose it is I found it faulty. No mater what Mike do the new production of Vitavox S2 will NOT be the same drives as they use to be 50 years back. It is impossible to make it the same, regardless how much someone would like to convince themselves… not to mention: WHY SHOULD IT BE THE SAME? Is the old production of Vitavox S2 some kind of absolute reference that did better Sound? Of course not!!!! Furthermore, I can bring you examples of dozens and dozens companies and products where “reportedly” the same people, with the “reportedly” the same machinery and “reportedly” the same suppliers tried to reinstate former products and the products NEVER were the same. So, I have no doubts that the new production of S2 will sound different then the 50-years production – there is nothing wrong with it.

Still, even shaping the subject as “new production vs. the old production” does not sound intelligent for me. One of the reasons is because the old production drivers all sounded different anyhow…

So, to think - if the new Mike’s production will be repro or not repro is unnecessary. Whatever it will be it will be new drivers. If is will be inspired by the Vitavox S2 blueprint then it is fine but it itself said absolutely nothing about the Sound of those drivers. The originals Vitavox people fifty years ago, very much similar to Mike today are clueless regardless “where sound come from in drivers” and it is perfectly fine that the old guys and Mike do whatever they do just trying to get more “interesting” version of Sound…

Anyhow, it would be sad if Mike buys into the same believe regarding of the S2 driver as you Guy apparently do. Guy, you are and industry participant and your mind works in a certain industry-precompiled format, the format that I religiously reject. Thinking about the new production of the S2 driver you do not think in term of what actions might be take in order to get better Sound out of this driver but rather in term: what kind BS marketing statements the bogus people at far east would like to heard about this drivers in order to find it more attractive to buy. Sure, you would like to pitch to them the concept of the “the original one”? But what does it mean “the original one”? It is a reference to Sound or to the stupid brand cult? I hope Mike would not buy into the Label Drooling and go for the actual sonic results instead of the breeding the stupid marketing crap… the crap that unfortunately is the only thing that makes revenue in audio. Well, whatever, will see…

BTW, when you will be talking to Mike then to the questions for my former post add a question if Mile will be changing (did I say improving?) the shape of the bolt the attaches the phase plug to the center-poll.

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