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Max Shatsky wrote:

>You might built better audio or learn to develop more sensitive perception and you end up with the same results. This why I, staring from a certain level, refuse to combine audio and music and  feel that audio resole own purely “abstract audio” tasks (and I do not see anything negative in it) and musicality exist “as is”, completely out of the scope and our or regards of the audio methods… Romy, I still don't get why you call it 'abstract audio' and why you put audio out of music context. Yes, audio and music are not the same things, but the type of audio discussed at this forum serves as a tool of conveying musical messages (at least some of them). A composer can use a violin to create a sense of bird singing. If a reproduction system is incapable to deliver that AUDIO qualities, then the message is lost. That's why you can't get the same results from "built better audio" and "learn to develop more sensitive perception". Different intentions/messages/visions may require different tools/perceptions to convey themselfs. >"own purely “abstract audio” tasks "  what are these? You mean the taskes that have no connection to music? then why do we need to bother about it (in this forum)?

Still, there is something after that and it is not only my own observations but also a common pattern. A person eventually become so familiar with the mechanisms of own listening awareness and so demanding to his/her listening experiences that for that person it became more beneficial to acknowledge reflections of own extrapolation instead of the sound of actual reproduced reality. When the person in his/her development riches this state the “quality” of sound reproduction become less and less relevant, up to the point of being irrelevant at all. (Actually the definition of “quality” becomes to have different meaning...)  At this state the person might still continue working on audio improvements but what the person does form now and on is pure “abstract audio” as it serves purely self-serving audio objectives…. because the person’s  musical objectives have no audio aim already.   Interesting that I do not recognize the term “abstract audio” as an offensive expression, in fact, I personally consider that the “abstract audio” it is the only purist and the most objective way to deal with sound reproduction. A person at this state resolves pure audio tasks, and yes, if it is necessary then the person plugs into the dame all necessary cultural and musical “support”. However, the person at the very same time clearly recognizes that success or failure of this “abstract audio task” is absolutely detached from own listening awareness and own cultural musical evolution.

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