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In the Forum: Horn-Loaded Speakers
In the Thread: It's might be another project...
Post Subject: It is kind of ridiculous but it is what it is.Posted by Romy the Cat on: 10/18/2024
Antonis, I disagree with you that Jensen has no unnecessary bends. Take a look at my image below. From point A to point B the horn has a band that acts as a resonant chamber. The paths between those two points always have their harmonics which are ever present and there is no way to eliminate it from the horn sound. Also, I am completely against the concept that this type of horn should have multiple bends. The only benefit of the bends is to have longer horns. It would make sense to have longer only if a month of the horn is larger as a result of the longer horn. In this specific configuration the response of the horn is restricted by the size of the mouse and longevity of the horn doesn't give any benefits besides creating internal permanent resonances.

On the right side, you see the schematic of my new corner horn. As you see it is made extremely simple and the back chamber radiates into the hole which hits a corner.  There is a red plate in parallel to the mouse exit which does not exist in my horn but exists in Vitavox CN191 corner horn which uses the same topology. Initially, I was planning to put these plates in there but frankly speaking, I'm OK with how it is. I just know that to experiment with the size, profile and proximity of this plate behind just behind the mouth will take years and I do not have in me a drive to “improve” anything as it is not my main system. 

I absolutely insist that you take very seriously this paragraph. Although I very much insist that many multiband horns that I heard sounded like crap, I do not insist that they sound like this because of the bends. There are so many variables in corner-loaded horns you know I have so little personal experience playing with them that all my ideas are purely hypotheticals. When I glanced inside my new corner horn I saw that there were no extra bends, only that made me decide to buy it. The rest is purely accidental my reportedly-positive result does not prove anything but just delivers my own comfort with my hypothesis.

There is another interesting aspect that I always have in the back of my mind. A corner-loaded horn has theoretically unlimited mouse size and as a result, this horn is perfectly topologically suitable to work with tone control. Not equalization, which is horrible because you are closing your slope, but pure tone control, which does not introduce facial distortions. You choose some kind of arbitrary frequency, let's say 150 Hertz and you with a capacitor and two resistors introduce anything under it let's say +2 decibels. Since the mouth of the horn is “unlimited”, or effectively the size of your corner, then increment of your horn output as a specific frequency perfectly makes sense, particularly with a horn that is made with a driver of resonance 20-25 Hertz.

 I would love to learn what constitutes the quality of my current sound that is coming from direct radiator versus corner loading. Of course, I did an experiment plugging direct radiation and listening just corner loading results, exactly what Vitavox CN191 does. I hated what I heard. The Vitavox uses a driver with 45Hz resonance, and I use a driver with 25Hz resonance. I feel that Vitavox  15” driver is an order of magnitude more interesting then this crappy Altec but when I put it into my corner corn I get better sound from a driver but less interesting sound from my room. I was thinking about it a lot trying to identify why and then failed to catch it and decided to keep Altecs. The whole idea of my corner horn installation is that I would like to drop it in the corner and not worry about anything else. I got much more interesting results than I hoped for. I would like more people to hear my corner horn and tell me why it is so peaceful. It is very interesting as if I introduce better amplification or front end it does not sound interesting. It sounds the best when I drive it from an objectively crappy sound front end with five dollars integrated amplifier. It is kind of ridiculous but it is what it is.

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