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In the Forum: Playback Listening
In the Thread: Accuracy vs. Musicality (and YMMV)
Post Subject: Magico Gryphon modern systemsPosted by Amir on: 8/20/2024
 Paul S wrote:
Amir, I hope that "real Music" can move you emotionally. I think and hope that your idea of "accurate reproduction" includes your own (appropriate) emotional reactions to the Music. On the one hand, I cannot simply accept that "detailed" Music is "accurate" if it does not move me. In other words, the "emotional" and "intentional" information needs to be there before I think of playback as "accurate", in the first place. Like Romy has said outright, if it isn't "musical" it isn't "accurate". Looking more closely at the fine points, I think it is possible to be emotionally involved without "all the details". And I agree that some systems seem to present plenty of details while sounding lifeless. However, I certainly would not say that these are two poles that represent The State of the Art. IMO, the "current State of the Art" melds and thereby obviates these "poles". Changing my direction but staying on the subject, I have used "efficient" speakers for many years because they strike me as being more "emotionally responsive", "tracking the Music" more closely, including "the emotional parts". Sure, there are amps and "other considerations", but, generally speaking, I would "recommend" to anyone who asked to start with "musically responsive" speakers, and at least to start the intellectual exercise of mentally building a system there. I have heard to exhaustion that "accurate" means "cold" and/or "dead/lifeless". What a load of crap! I hope nobody reading this site accepts this ridiculous notion!


Paul S

Paul, if you like more musical systems then it does not mean musical systems are not real. Let me share my experiance about modern gryphon trident speaker (big 3way €80,000) vs Small Living Voice obx (2way $10,000) .The “comparison by contrast method” does not depend on listener taste so this method is more useful because it’s reference point is independent. You can do comparision by contrast method in different ways and it is very simple to do that.We used one CD and one LP from one album and listened to both media in two audio systems.It was very simple to realize that Living Voice obx had more contrast between CD and LP (it means living voice was more real) and also Living Voice was more musical.
Most modern speakers actally are not real/transparent as they claim. I think most modern speakers are not musical and are not real/transparent.As you see a simple 2way paper driver (living voice) give you more information from record than a big expensive modern speaker like gryphon.

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