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In the Thread: Romy the Cat's Audio recommendation: the biggest bang for a back
Post Subject: Go figure…Posted by Romy the Cat on: 9/6/2023
 Edgar= wrote:
 Regarding the language, what bill is doing is not reverb injection, bill is doing DSP. Reverb injection is not DSP. Although how Romy conceived doing it does use DSP. 
   
It is not language confused but the actions are a bit confusing. We constantly have arguments with Bill as he calls his reverberation channels Surround channels and I absolutely hate the word Surround.  Surrounds implies location of the sound and I do care less about the location of the sources in what I do. I case about imitation of reverberation or certainly comes with location and delay, but the location is not the key ingredient. This is what I never used the word Surrounds channels but only Reverberation Injection channels. The fast that it is DSP or not is irrelevant. There are analog Reverberation processors and there are number of different types of DSP Reverberation algorithms, warn not the implementations but types.  Some of them are better and some of them worse for my specific application. The best general Reverberation processors that inject Reverberation processors in main sound (widely used in prod audio) are not necessary the best in my application as I never touch the main signal with my Reverberation Injection, and everything is happening only on a dedicated complementary acoustic system that acts as an injector. 
 
Now, here is where it becomes tricky. I know what I do and can very much explain it technically and psychoacousticly but I am not sure what Bill is doing. I might understand it is intellectually, but I do not have the feeling about it as I never played myself with his system. You see, I need to have 2 clean channels and then introduce the reverberation difference to feel the benefits and contra-benefits. In bill case it is all integrated and to me is harder to understand what is going on. He certainly played to me his 2 channels and then added his “Surrounds” but it is so much more different from what I accustom that I sometime get confused. The result is certainly better, but I do not get good feelings what are actionable ingredients in that result. I have quite good listening experience and I typically could with quite high resolution figure out what comes from what. I Bill’s case I understand what is going on when he his 2 Ch running but what he turns his Surrounds I get confused and with my self-accused “target listening audio intelligence”. 
 
It would be worth to not that Bill is playing with Surround, Reverberation and the rest of it much longer than me. I played with LF delay channels back in 2000-2002 and the result was very good, but I had at that time different objectives, primary to address the small size of my room and to extend RT-60. Also, it looks like Bill and me have slightly different preferences. He appreciates more to hear the space vs me who more appreciate to hear the events complimented by space. None of the approaches are wrong. I feel that I have a more interesting direct sound. I feel that Bill has more interesting Surround, Reverberation or whatever we call it. His sound of space is in a way transformational, and it was something that made me to look into the reverberations again 3 years back. Ironically what he does is not the reverberation injection… Go figure…

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