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In the Forum: Playback Listening
In the Thread: Remedies the Beauty
Post Subject: Some important notesPosted by Romy the Cat on: 11/18/2021
I took this quote from Bill’s post in the Bermuda Triangles of Audio thread, and I did not want to pollute that thread. Still, I feel that subject is very worthy to address.
 Bill wrote:

3.Tannoy is worse in dynamics, but what non-horn speaker can match them for this parameter.
Here is where I disagree as there are more satellites in it. Unquestionably there are fact: Dannoy is 83dB and it is easy to make horns installation well over 100dB. Indeed the 10-15dB differences is huge deference but they are just numbers that not directly has connection to auditable experiences. There are plenty of horns out there that sound as they have sub 80db sensitivity and there are some direct radiators that with moderate 9x dB sensitivity sound very dynamic. There are plenty factors in place in here, but this is whole another subject. 
 
In context of given disagreement: I will not be talking about Tannoy as I honestly do not like it sound. I am talking about Dannoy, or a combination of Tannoy with my type of passive radiator. So, at the time it was the best in my room, I was very surprised as I did not feel the dynamic deficiency. I was thinking about it a lot and I feel that it is because Dannoy have very different balance between acoustic and tonal pressure from what we accustomed in audio and how we measure dynamic range. One pound of water and one pound of tabasco sauce weight the same but produce very different impact. What we measure sensitivity we use a concept of acoustic pressure not the tonal pressure. So, I have no problem with Dannoy low sensitivity numbers, in fact I think it has more proper dynamic impact then my horns as Mancondo could be brutal at time.
 
There was one aspect where Dannoy fatally loosing in the buttle with Mancondo and I am planning to fight with it, I have some tricks in my sleeves, hopefully. I am talking about rise sound. As a dense group of instruments increase of intensity, particularly during the slow rising crescendos Dannoys is falling very dramatically. It does fine with “simple sounds”, the little Mahlerian “popups” sound incredibly effective but it the rise happens across wider bandwidth and sound has very complex harmonic structure then Dannoy juts losing it. That rise is very important to me and in my view Macondo/Milq do the best rise I even witnessed in audio. It is very hard to get as the rise should be progressive and consistent, should have neither bandwidth of dynamic gups going up or down, should not under dramatize or over dramatize sound, should comply with a dozen of other requirements that I invented for myself. It is VERY hard to get. As great Macondo/Milq was in my Dannoy/SIT is nowhere even close. As I told I am planning to work on it, let see how it goes.
 
So, I would not say that “Tannoy is worse in dynamics”. First or all it is not Tannoy but Dannoy. Secondary, it is one commercial Yamaha B2 vs 12 custom build DSETs with channels loaded by ears. And the lastly: I did not work with it yet. If the things goes as I hope I should be able to get Remedios to have very good rise with no less ease and effortlessness as Macondo/Milq does. This hope is not tested yet.

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