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In the Thread: Designing and building a 5 channel horn loaded (looking for directions on my way)
Post Subject: Some "philosophy".Posted by Romy the Cat on: 6/22/2015
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OK, sounds reasonable. There are plenty concerns that I would
rise with the speaker idea you proposed. However, lately begin to feel that
many of the things I have stated or might state in audio do not find proper
ears to be herd. It is not that what I propose is something overly advanced.
The problem is that in most of the
instances people not able understand what I say as to do it requires to have a
personal creative audio experience projected to more or less elevated demands
level of listening. Very few people in audio have it.
I know I sound like an arrogant jerk but in reality I am
not, I just cutting the corners of audio learning reality. For instance, I
might say that in your design the horizontal positioning of tweeter and upper
MF channel is not desirable, not to say prohibitive. You might build it as is
and then insist that it “sounds fine”. I only assure you that there is no
Mexican guitar players or classically trained musicians who come to
listen would identify that anything was wrong with MF/HF integration. One
day, perhaps tomorrow or perhaps in 15 years you will “get it”. Then you do you
might understand what I feel: it is impossible to teach people – they need
to discover the things themselves, ironically only then they begin to listen
others… but in a very different way… In my few any other way of “audio education”
besides self-realization does nothing else but breeding a number of internet
talking heads. Over the years of running this site I am guilty for creation of
number of audio zombies why fill audio sites with own presence and who are completely
clueless what they are talking as they just jongleur the audio words with no understanding
of the words meaning. The point of all of it is that without own progress,
development and own pursuit everything that you will “learn” is not applicable
or misunderstood.
Well, my wife blames me that that I have a tendency to
become overly existential at 3AM. What she does not get that she this is one of
the many my qualities that she loves about me and I suggest her to enjoy it
while it last. Now is not 3AM but 7AM, the wife sleeps, the baby is swinging in
listening room trying to fall asleep, there is a huge rain outside and
let talk a bit about horns a little.
For sure the vertical configuration for all drivers a must
in my books, read the Macondo’s Axiom. Also, for interior architecture you
might produce a better frame design. You might also to reconsider the vertical wall
on which the MF channel sits – any flat surfaces like this will be read by
horns. Your selection of horns, driver and crossover is a bit too early to discuss
as at the planning level you do not know how it will work all together.
What I would do if I were at your place is to what I always recommend:
get rid anything but upper bass and MF and make them to work together in your room.
This selection of drivers, crossover and positioning of the room might take a
few month, do not be in hurry. You should be able to get a perfectly satisfactory
sound just from those two channels. It is very important at this point to identify
what kind sound you would like to have. By fine tuning the “size” of your upper
bass presentation and expressiveness/articulation of your MF you should be able
to do a LOT. It should be your own well recognizable sound and it has to be ”interesting”
sound. I would not go for any other channels unit you get your own “perfection”
of MF and upper bass. It will take some time to listen and think about nature
of sound.
The benefit of this approach is that you are not invested into
frame, other horns, drivers and you do not have anything. They say that to make
a great sculpture you have to take a piece of marble and cut off anything not necessary.
It works very different in my view with playback. With playback you need to act
opposite then with sculpture, you need to identify and implement a singular point
of greatness that you appreciate in your MF/Upperbass tandem, and then while complimenting
the playback with more channels you need not to conflict with your singular point
of greatness but rather embrace and cultivate it.
BTW, the MF/Upperbass tandem is great playground for amplification…
The Cat
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