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In the Thread: The concrete midbass horns: The story continues
Post Subject: The concrete midbass horns: The story continuesPosted by ulf on: 1/1/2015
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Some of you have already seen my old posts about the 2 pair of concrete midbass horn a friend and I built a few years ago. >

Now I just wanted to share what has happened to those beauties since the last post.

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My friend, Per, was (as always) quick to finalize his installation. These horns are now a part of his very nice system. The system features: A pair of 16 Hz concrete bass horns extending under the floor of the listening room and with their mouths located behind the listening sofa; The concrete midbass 100Hz horns as described earlier; Tractrix 350 Hz horns and a pair of pleated tweeters on top. The drivers are: JBL 2220J; TAD 1201;TAD 4001; Beyma TPL-150H.

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Here are a few pictures of the system. See the bass horn mouth and Per painting the horns.


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Being a great DIY:er Per has built the speakers, amplifiers, other electronics and most of the house.


Overall the system sounds very good. Great dynamics with a nice tone and good coherence. The best indoor system I have heard. >

Bass response is by far the best I have heard. The 16Hz horns can produce some impressive acoustical power. The sound is spectacular: effortless and just right!

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Now to the second pair of the concrete midbass horns: Mine are still placed in the garden! >

A couple of years ago I knocked down an old carport and a couple old sheds. This gave me a possibility to set up a nice barbeque sound system.

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A nice day with no wind! System is playing beautifully and the barbeque is ready to be ignited. That’s how life should be!


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The first season the midbass horns were equipped with phase plugs and L.Cao t="on">8 inch fullrange drivers. The L.Cao worked ok. I now use these in my garage in t="on">85 liters vented cabinets.

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The next season 18Sound 8M400 replaced the L.Cao in the horns. These drivers have much higher efficiency and sounds strong and dynamic in the horns. Surprisingly sweet tone for a pair of PA mids.

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A few different tweeters have been used but now I use a pair of Altec 802-D on 350 Hz horns. They work ok but chokes when I play too loud.

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Listening to this system outdoors has been nice, interesting, educational and chocking. Now I understand the importance of the room. The barbeque system has a room of the right size. Anything smaller will degrade the performance. The lack of reflecting surfaces is a nice feature of this room. >

Now dynamics, instrument placement and sound stage sounds right for the first time. I didn’t think this was possible to reproduce anything like this with a pair of speakers. You can also play at the right volume without the nastiness you usually gets indoors.

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The Bad system features: crap electronics; many meters of the cheapest speaker cables; limited bandwidth; no real crossover, only a tweeter cap; far from flat frequency response; weather depending.

The Good system features: life like reproduction of music at realistic playback levels; possibility to effortless transform my garden to a jazz club, church, concert hall and so on. They are also a nice thing to have in the garden and appreciated by the cats.

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If you have the chance and understanding neighbours, try it for yourself. >

Note the free space between the barbeque horns! Possible position for a 35-40 Hz horn that might be built.

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Happy New Year! Ulf






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