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In the Thread: Lamm introduced LL1 Signature Preamp…
Post Subject: A configuration...Posted by Romy the Cat on: 7/26/2014
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 Stitch wrote:
I listened to those some time ago. It was a full Lamm combo with ML3 + LP2 paired with Wilson Alexandria. This Doc from the WBF Forum never missed a second to tell the world how super this combination is. Above the holy grail. I found an owner with same Set Up and listened extensively to.

Well, this Doc is an idiot. A typical example that those guys swear that only enough big bucks will create a top sonic result....The M1.2R is a MUCH better match for this speaker, but, it is too cheap....The ML3 can drive the Alexandria but it is far away from a good, effortless reproduction combination and based on that I will be careful with my opinion about the LL1. I think, from what I heard, the LL1 is a good sounding preamp, but the price for 4 boxes with a lot of air inside is steep. When they read 95dB or something similar they all think, great, I can use tubes with that speaker. No one from these "experienced" morons waste any time what the signal will meet the X-over parts first .... and some are a black hole....

I listened to preamps which are more expensive and much more worse from a correct tone but my impression is, a LL2 with better parts (Poti, caps, connectors) can do the same. 

Well, I always felt that the only way to BEGIN tojudge a preamp is to do a bypass test in unity gain

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PageIndex=1&postID=2589 

…but I do not think that an industry person or a person who have spent 40K for the unit would have guts to do it. It is no question that Lamm holds his customers a money milking hostages, coming up with multiple chassis and other completely superficial things.  The idiots from WBF forum are very much his level clientele and he and they patronize each other. If you do not like it then you have no business to be in THE business.

I do presume that LL1 is an OK sounding preamp but Lamm is known for perfectly able to compromise own products when it was not necessary. Only Lamm can make hugely expensive 4353 chassis LP1 phonostage and to ship it with incredibly shitty, build-in step-up transformer that make the unit not suitable for MC operation. In LL2 we have multiple cathodes (?!) outputting cup-coupled 200R behind numerous switches and space-spread printed board layout. I do not know if this is an “ultimate” configuration.

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