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In the Forum: Horn-Loaded Speakers
In the Thread: Vitavox’s S2 Survival Guide.
Post Subject: A lack of substance so far.Posted by Romy the Cat on: 2/4/2013
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 morespeakers2 wrote:
I thought Romy being very familiar with the S2 and also familiar with the 288 could quickly simply state a few simple observations between the two or just be honest as say he doesn't know, doesn't care, or doesn't remember. 

I would not trust Romy’s view on the subject.  I got my S2 working in the way how it works now (driven by YO186) somewhere in 2008 and I had my 288 somewhere in 2000. It was very different version of myself and my demands for results were way not similar. It is not that I do not know, do not care, or do not remember but rather I invest no trust, conviction or reliance  in my judgment on the subject.
 morespeakers2 wrote:
Instead I guess Romy being Romy was intent on questioning my motives, goals, methods, and then points me to  a link how to build a system breaking his only request to posters, that is to to keep on topic. All of this rather than getting to the point of the S2 versus 288 mechanical differences only conversation.  I actually do appreciate Romy's responses and it did get me to think a little more about system building, but still no discussion of S2 versus 288 differences for whatever reasons.

And I only assure you that if you instead of solicit advise from online people about S2 versus 288 mechanical differences  will look in your own motives, goals, methods AND tangible actions then you will be much more gratified. A homework is not virtual thing but the actual set of self-training that helps you to be familiar with the subject. I know that you want me to give you the list of pimples that I advise to cut off from S2 drive in order to make it “better” but it is not what I do.
 morespeakers2 wrote:
My response  "… I do hope to create a driver that meets or exceeds the S2 in sound quality."  should not really have even got any attention as I thought it is nearly everyone's goal to reproduce sound as realistically as possible, maybe this is an unrealistic a black and white goal.  In reality I know everything is a balancing act of compromises in the speaker world, but in the context of recreating sound as closely to the actual source I thought it a reasonable statement, however I am not sure how any of this is relevant to S2/288 conversation. Don't want to go off on these tangents myself here.

Yes, I went to the tangents but this is the curse of the actions that I feel is appropriate in given case.

 morespeakers2 wrote:
I was hoping Romy might have observed diaphragm to phase plug height, coil gap, radical or small differences in the phase plugs, etc. between the S2 and 288 but whatever. 
But your Romy will never be able to associate those small differences with the actual sound that driver produces.   If S2 and 288 have different sound and they do then who say that size of coil gap, type of Alnico used, phase plug’s slots or the profile of opening would be something that specifically responsible foe sonic differences. There are literally hundreds reason why the drivers might sound different, you are looking for an easy answer – I do not know the answer, sorry.
 morespeakers2 wrote:
I also thought Romy might like to share what he does not like about the S2 sound (maybe it is here on the site if someone could direct me) and what physical factors he thinks might cause these problems he is always alluding to.  I am sure he has thoughts on these matters. So any way, Romy still not understanding why we can't talk about driver mechanics only, like I said in my other post, what do you do when you have lived with a driver for a long time and then want to shape the sound to what you want?

I would like to talk about it with another S2 owner who would convince me with their sincerity by expressing explicit complains about S2 sound, sort of substantiate their claim. THAN, I would be able corroborate with them how I delt with this or that character of S2 sound. 
  
Rgs, The Cat

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