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In the Forum: Horn-Loaded Speakers
In the Thread: Vitavox’s S2 Survival Guide.
Post Subject: Are we shaking air?Posted by Romy the Cat on: 2/4/2013
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 morespeakers2 wrote:
I am not against trying the S2 in the future but I was just curious about the very small details to cause compression drivers make their different sounds before running out and trying any more drivers. I upset a few speaker distributors several years back going on a wild driver goose chase buying and returning drivers and besides testing the patience of distributors it tired me out also. So I made this post as homework before trying anything to learn possibly what direction to even pursue.
Morespeakers, I do not think that anybody credibly will be able to tell you the relation between the driver design and its sound. I do not mean to a jerk about it, I just do not feel that this knowledge exists. Not only because the sound of compression drivers is in a way dark territory but mostly because understating the sonic results a compression driver prose is a very complex meta-cultural experience and I don’t think that you shall invest the trust of the understanding into anybody. Also, the understanding of this sound is a subject of rest of instillation, so I would advocate again do not look for MF drive in standalone format but rather look for it in context the rest of activity of your playback. The homework that you are trying to do now is worthless and pointless, at least it is my view and I hope you do not mind if I share my view.
 morespeakers2 wrote:
A quote from your post #2 post id # 18360 Radial vs. annular vs. combination phase plugs."So, unless you are a machinist and make your own drivers (if you are then let to be friends)" I would like to be that friend in the future if you would like. Although at the moment I need complete this sort of interesting and minimally barbaric four way all horn pa/high quality playback system for a night club I am working on. If you still care to make a driver from a clean sheet of paper or care to watch me try and maybe you have some ideas on what can be done differently from your experiences with S2. 
Well, all that I or anybody else can offer would be a set of wishes how the driver might be made but it would not be tight in any way or form to any sonic prediction. Do you have 25K to buld a pair of your own drivers? The most important – how will you make your own diaphragms?
 morespeakers2 wrote:
So this brings me back to where I would hope we talk about to topic my original post in an effort you might share the small details of the S2 you observed that could possibly make it sound "different" to the 288, it really doesn't matter for this S2 discussion if I like or you like the sound but really to get to the bottom of what has been done to mechanically on each that cause differences in the sound so new paths can be charted. Is this not worthwhile to discuss?
Yes, it is worthwhile to discuss if you are willing to undertake the task to rebuild the S2 driver and to make it better. This would be a very noble and highly supported by me objective. It will be absolutely not gratifying in the end, cost a LOT, has no assurance that the result might be used in any way or form. Are you the person who is willing to undertake this task with these prospects? You need to be crazy to do it. I am crazy but I never did it, are you saying that you are crazier then I am? I doubt. Also, it is about demonstration of the craziness. A normally crazy person before writing and thinking about the subject get the pair of S2 driver and experiment with them. How else? You are willing to talk about the subject but you are not willing to demonstrate any wasted and tangible action on the subject. So, you shall not be surpassed that someone might recognize your movements as “an internet air shaking”.  Aristotle use to say: “Those that know, do. Those that understand, teach” However those who teach they understand only because they use to DO something….

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