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In the Forum: Horn-Loaded Speakers
In the Thread: Vitavox’s S2 Survival Guide.

Post Subject: S2 problems, wish list? how to move forwardPosted by morespeakers2 on: 2/4/2013

Oh well I tried. I though I was clearly asking some easy questions about two similar drivers and the small details of what makes them sound different. I obviously did not do a good job at this.

I thought Romy being very familiar with the S2 and also familiar with the 288 could quickly simply state a few simple observations between the two or just be honest as say he doesn't know, doesn't care, or doesn't remember.
Instead I guess Romy being Romy was intent on questioning my motives, goals, methods, and then points me to a link how to build a system breaking his only request to posters, that is to to keep on topic. All of this rather than getting to the point of the S2 versus 288 mechanical differences only conversation. I actually do appreciate Romy's responses and it did get me to think a little more about system building, but still no discussion of S2 versus 288 differences for whatever reasons.
My response "… I do hope to create a driver that meets or exceeds the S2 in sound quality." should not really have even got any attention as I thought it is nearly everyone's goal to reproduce sound as realistically as possible, maybe this is an unrealistic a black and white goal. In reality I know everything is a balancing act of compromises in the speaker world, but in the context of recreating sound as closely to the actual source I thought it a reasonable statement, however I am not sure how any of this is relevant to S2/288 conversation. Don't want to go off on these tangents myself here.

So all is not lost, Jorge did point out in post#105, post id 18963, his useful observation of the S2 peculiarities of one style of the S2's different diaphragm's. This is quite a different construction to the 288 diaphragm.

I was hoping Romy might have observed diaphragm to phase plug height, coil gap, radical or small differences in the phase plugs, etc. between the S2 and 288 but whatever. I also thought Romy might like to share what he does not like about the S2 sound (maybe it is here on the site if someone could direct me) and what physical factors he thinks might cause these problems he is always alluding to. I am sure he has thoughts on these matters. So any way, Romy still not understanding why we can't talk about driver mechanics only, like I said in my other post, what do you do when you have lived with a driver for a long time and then want to shape the sound to what you want? Isn't being able to engineer your own driver what we should all aspire to be able to do or have someone do for us? Not to keep endlessly trying drivers, not living with sombody else's compromises and marketing goals, not being stuck with sound you don't like for years.

As my dad was a mechanical engineer I know the process is not hard but does take some dedication and knowledge. Knowing how different elements change the sound is a huge plus and a big time saver. Really the whole intent of my post was to save time by not reinventing the compression driver but to refine it to meet what ever sonic goals myself or another might have. Ok I have stated all I can for now on this. wheww....jeezz.....

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