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In the Thread: UHF capable tweeters and the moronic conclusions

Post Subject: I think we are talking about different things here.Posted by Romy the Cat on: 9/18/2012

rowuk wrote:
Maybe a lot of what Romy or Harlanov hear is determined by what they have conditioned themselves hear in a specific way? Maybe we are all victims of our own "conditioning" and need to address this first?
What IS amazing to me is the fact that there ARE very fine recordings out there created with "not approved" studio monitors and sub-standard electricity and amplification. Perhaps those engineers are in fact, artists and find "the Sound" without the special attention that seems to be necessary later in the consumer chain.

These concepts are very difficult to put into perspective as the line between love of music and love of the improvement process can but not must be mutually exclusive. One thing that I have learned here is that at the end of the day (week, month....), if you can't enjoy the fruits of your efforts, you are the real dummy.

Rowuk, I am bit surprised that you took it in this way. Of cause what we are taking in context of this thread and in context of this entire site has to do explicitly with that process of sound reproduction. I feel there is absolutely no need as soon as we hit some kind of conceptual bottleneck of sound reproduction ideas to raise a with flag and switch to conversations about love of music. If you are individual who research pushing envelop ways to produce female cosmetics than I do not think that it would help your research if you claim that if woman is being loved then there is no need for her to improve her skin as her “imperfections” would not bother the person who love her. Even the argument is perfectly valid but this argument would not advance you in your journey to advance cosmetics. So, your ideas of alleged mutually exclusiveness between “loving of music” and improvement process of music reproduction do not really reflect in what I feel about audio. For sure it might be true and it is true with most of audio people but the basic presumption, at least at my blog, is that this mutually exclusiveness has been resolved in the minds of my site readers. I have written about it a lot on past you might look for old posts.

I do not know what the relationship Haralanov has with music but it is a subject at all. The point that Haralanov pitched has nothing to do with music and what he said does not mean that anything that does not comply with what he proposed is “bad sound” or prohibitive sound reproduction. The whole point is how to get “more” from the media we use, and in our case our media is not trumpets, pianos or harps but amplifiers, loudspeakers and turntables. Go to see the string players who pay $20K for some vintage bows and who can be engaged in years of collaborations on the subject how that particular bow could or could not advance them to play with this given playing style. It is no different between us and audio. We do explore possibilities and opportunities that audio opens to us as we engage different audio ideas in order to advance our, oh yeas, interest in music. I think this is kind of going without saying…

So, that “conditioning ourselves hear in a specific way” is not a problem of any kind but rather the mandatory input parameter of that entire operation. We do not hear music in any specific way but we do have advanced listening skills to be able to recognize and to assess how minute idiosyncrasies of sound reproduction paradigm impact out music listening experiences. From this perspective what Haralanov propose is as valid as anything else, regardless agree you and me with his observations or not.

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