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In the Thread: Andrew's new 4-way horn using Stereolabs stone horns and DIY bass
Post Subject: Thanks Jorge...I fee the lovePosted by atilsley169 on: 6/19/2012
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 Jorge wrote:
Andrew you got to read the site, get into it, there is a lot of useful information regarding excactly the project you are going into, is there any difference if the threads are addressed to you or someone else?  Most of them are Romys own learning experience and how and why he did it this way,  you can agree on them or not but most things do have a clear explanation.
The Knowledge Tree is perfectly organized by themes: you need to go to the Acoustic system and listening room (speakers are really tied to the room they are sounding in, dont you think?)  Horn Loaded and voila:  Once you read it and experiment a little with your own horns, it would be great to hear your impressions on it... The most important opinions are the ones coming from your own listening impressions in your room, and really the most important for you.

Now about your last question, IMHO there are a lot of horn projects which are just a bunch of horns put toghether with no intention, just piled up really in the simplest manner enough to cover the listenable range and that is it, no furhter thought on it,  some are even commercial configurations:  There has been a lot of discussion here about Time alignement for example, which proposes that all sound waves should start at the same distance from the listening spot, so if you want a time aligned system a lot of things change and piled up horns wont work anymore... But instead of talking about time alignment, it is good to listen to a system that is or try to arrange your system like that,  maybe it is already time aligned, so what differences do you hear?  Watching a picture of the setup one can tell if it is time aligned, but how it will sound, one cannot.  So your impressions on what you are trying to achieve and the intention on your setup is important.  Avantgarde trios are not time aligned for example,  they also got big plastic horns that can resonate and polute the sound,  I dont know the Stereolab horns you plan to use, are they plastic?  Usually round is better than square, but square is better than 15 inch woofers in a box doing 500hz! 
Again there is a very long post on Upper bass horns you can read, full of explanations, you might agree or not, but the explanations are there,  a few friends who read it got insulted in the first few lines because their own system was depicted, I was laughing like crazy!  After you read this you will notice grammar is not so important.  I think what Romy meant instead of allergy was already  BTW.  I hate autocorrectors anyway!

Gday mate!


G'day Jorge

Thanks for your post. I 'sort of' understand.

If the site is just a repository fine.....I just thought these types of forum are where people ENGAGE. There's dozens of online libraries out there about time alignment, room size, bass traps etc. Does Romy not acknowledge that people have different learning approaches? If young Karate Kid is getting lessons from the Grand Master...does the Master just yell at the kid and tell him to traing/learn himself...and come back in 2 years with an update...then the Master waves some special 'hi end' magic dust over his learning/playback to fix everything?

The thing I that I (foolishly) thought, was that I'm building a new system....and given the drawings, horns, drivers etc....COLLECTIVELY, how could people coach me through the build. Perhaps I'm missing something.

Then, Romy makes some dumb ass comment re music choice...suggesting that Eric Clapton etc isn't really needed to be listened to through horns...so he wouldn't bother to engage. Really. I listen to all sorts of music....so I want a really good play-back system. What I listen to today, will be different in 6 months time....and I also like to listen to the a good playback system with DVD for the occassional live music concert/DVD. If I prattled on about O Fortuna from Carmina Burana, by Carl Orff, or Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 in C-sharp minor, by Franz Liszt, or Sous le dôme épais (Flower Duet) from Lakme, by Delibes etc, Romy probably would have got aroused.

As to the Stereolabs horns, these are made of composite stone. I was very close to wood turning my own horns using layers of MDF...similar to Romy's bass horn....but opted for a ready built product. I may still build a large round horn one day....we'll see.

Kind regards.

The Andrew

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