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In the Thread: How to record FM broadcasts.
Post Subject: Re: Endless more digital ....Posted by Romy the Cat on: 11/7/2005

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 jtavan wrote:
I would be interested to hear your reaction to the same CD ripped properly on a CD-ROM drive rather than recorded from SPDIF stream. If your transport is VERY good, they should be equivalent... but on damaged discs, or with bad transports, the error-corrected, ripped CD should be much better. It's nice to be able to re-read potentially-damaged sectors.

I did not make those experiments. Defiantly I will, though to load the digital already music to PC is not what I shoot for. The only interest that I do have is to preserve my FM broadcasts. Even the back up the LPs to digital does not really interest me as I laws can play those LPs on my analog gear if I wish to. Still, form my former excrements I remembers that computer CD-ROMs were horrible transports compare to my TL0.  I tried in past a number stand-alone CD burners: Alesis Masterlink ML-9600, Sony W66, Denon 1050, Tascam RW750, Fostex CR300, HHB CDR830 looking for away to be able to burn CD with acceptable quality. None of them recorded good as far as I concern but there was also a side affect. All these units had direct digital audio stream out and I did try all of them to use as a transport feeding my DAC. It turned out that none of them could even remotely compete with my dedicated audio transport. All of them had no bass compare to TL0 and were loosing all articulation from music, converting it juts in a gray string of sounds. For instance the Masterlink paling a CD sounded like: 1234567890 vs. the TL0 playing the same CD sounded like: 1234567890. Actually the real misery of them would be hard to describe but I completely revolted regarding what the CD burners did as the transports. Would the CD-ROM drives of PS read the disc in the same way as the “professional” CD burners I do not know…

 jtavan wrote:
As for a small flat monitor/touchscreen, I have a Viewsonic Airpanel, which is a Microsoft RDP client with wireless 802.11b in a 10" touchscreen tablet. It's pretty interesting, but I don't use it as I'm currently using the squeezebox with its IR remote control. It's not a perfect product, but it might be what you're looking for. If you're interested in a trade/purchase, please contact me off-thread.

Yes, I have looked at this screed before and considered it and a few similar to it. I still do not know if I need it, as I do not know with what configuration I might end up to. The Squeezebox do sounds interesting but it is one one-way (direction) solution. The biggest problem as that I do not have the dedicated ADC that would be sitting right next to the analog outputs of my tuner. I less care about the length of the D-cables… It might me near-located PS or I might stick a dedicated box in my server room (~40 feet of cable away, that would not be a big deal, if I go optical, will it?) As an alternative I consider to use a small laptop with pro PCMCIA sound card. Thos cards are ~$500-$600 and have an external connection box that might sit right along with the rest of my audio equipment. When the music is paling then it will be useful to use a wirelessly connected full-futured laptop to control it. When the D-playback is not used then the laptop sent in suspended mode and all D-system along with its “presumed” D-noise and the Laptop’s acoustic noise go to sleep.  Still I do not have any final sense of direction as I would like also to be able to with some like of web service that would allow me to tunnel my network and to activate or schedule the recoding ceremony remotely. I have to think about it more…

 jtavan wrote:
That sound card sounds like a pretty basic audio device, simple cheap coax transmitter on a card with a useless DSP. I have a MAudio Audiophil 2496 here that is similar. As long as you can use the mixer to bypass the processing, it's fine. But I think what you're really looking for is more along the lines of the Lynx Studio AES16 (16 channels of AES/EBU digital I/O, wordclock I/O, nothing else).

I did not know about this card before and it was exactly way I was looking for and the Lynx card does look much more interesting. Still, as a test drive my current card would do…  Also, Jeremy, and I ma not kidding here: would it be possible that an expansive (let it sot a few thousand dollars) very good quality sound card might have on board a pair of very good performing A/D converters. Really, the Weiss and the Pacific Microsonics are essentially the computers… so why the very same processing that those good AD converts do might not be implement on the audio card? If some of them would do good sounding card then I do not mind to put this computer to a dedicated high quality PS.  I wonder if the digital companies do the coupled thousands dollars worth Sounds Cards, with good clock on board and high quality/implementation of the A/D processing algorithms, but without staffing them with 7.1 decoders, DVD-audio, TNX, DSO and the rest garbage then we might have a very “cool” solution that would not require any external cables and so on… Doe exist anything out there like this worth to try?

 jtavan wrote:
I'm not ready to discard digital crossovers with horns quite yet - I think that the cretins do it Wrong, and that it may well be possible to do it Right. Still looking into that world - it's a complicated one.

Whatever the cretins do is DSP. I have a lot of reasons do not believe that it may be done Right in anyway, some of the reasons are technical and some “political” but all that one need it to listen ANY horn installation with D-crossovers. They are ALL fundamental laughable and I for year have rules that if a person juts mentions that he/she uses the D-crossovers or D-EQ then whatever else the person say becomes not important….

Rgs,
The Cat

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