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In the Forum: Horn-Loaded Speakers
In the Thread: Bye-Bye, Fane
Post Subject: We are just covering old grounds.Posted by oxric on: 4/10/2011
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 Romy the Cat wrote:

 There is absolutely nothing in Fane 8M specifications that is responsible for the diver sound. So, what is the purpose to ask about the new specifications?

One might think that someone can use “specifications” as an assurance that the new drivers will be up to the standards of the old one.  It might be the case but are you truly feel that somebody in Fane would care, measure or to confirm the specification of the new drivers? I do not know if the old Fane is the same Fane as we have today or just somebody bought out their name and product line. As I understand since 2007 Eminence own Fane, how do you know what changes was made with Fane. If you call today to Tannoy or JBL  that any of their “production manager” will assure you that whatever they do today is the very same as what they did 30 or 40 years back – they juts will not know the difference.




Romy,

Your questions are of course not unreasonable, but there is very little new in your post which is not going over old grounds we have not both already covered. But because this is you, and I respect your opinion, I will endeavour my best to again answer some of the points you raise, even at the risk of repeating what I have already said in previous posts. 

Initially you were questioning why Fane were using or exploiting me to launch these drivers. The plain truth is that Fane does not really care about launching this product, which unique as it might be, has actually virtually no demand. As far as I am concerned, I approached them and they are doing those who are interested in these drivers a favour in going out of their way to approach the same suppliers, use exactly the same parts and build the same drivers. I actually find they have been very helpful, as I called repeatedly (prompted by doubts you expressed) to obtain assurances that they had already given me, even when I then said that I wanted these to be put in writing (which they had already done).

There is truly little demand for these drivers and I am now quite sure that there will be no repeat of such a limited production run in the future. Why am I of this opinion? Well, in the two weeks that people have known about this driver being available, I have had interest amounting to maybe 4 or 5 confirmed orders and possibly interest in another 10 pairs but not confirmed. The order may not happen, simply because I will not take it on me to buy 15 pairs of drivers when I only would like two new pairs at the most.

As for the price, I think you don't realise that the price of £225 is for a pair. It is completely wrong to say that this is more than the price of the 18" Colossus which actually costs £550  a pair (not £235 as you suggest) and is a current driver which does not need a special order to suppliers. As for the Fane Sovereign 8" and 52FK at £25, they will not work in my 115Hz tractrix horn, which is I admit a crying shame. On the other hand, I am told Goto has drivers which might operate very well in that range. Guess why I did not rush to open my chequebook for these?

I have been offered two pairs of the Fane 8Ms drivers in NOS condition by someone who occasionally posts here and if that offer had been made to me three weeks ago, I would not have tried to fill a minimum order of 50 units. As I would prefer not to disappoint those who have expressed an interest, and as I am convinced you are completely wrong about whether these drivers will offer similar performance to the vintage 8Ms, I will try and see if this order can become reality.

In addition, I do in fact believe that your position is slightly odd. If you are prepared to endure all sorts of poor customer service from PurePower 2000, why should people not buy drivers which cost relatively little money and see if they have an exceptionally good foundation for a multi-way system? 

Whilst I am at it and given that in all likelihood it is only a matter of time before you deny me posting rights on your site, I do not understand why you are so condescending towards people who are members of Diyaudio, as reflected in your many posts about people who post there generally. Whilst I cannot pretend to understand the ins and outs of that forum (or any other for that matter), I have come across posts by contributors such as Jean-Michel Lecleach, Dr Geddes, Jonathan Hasquin, to mention only a few, some of whom I have approached in private for help and advice and they have invariably been quite courteous in doing so.  It offers those who would like to build a multi-way system like the one you advocate access to horn makers such as Autotech in Poland, who use the Group Buy format to very good effect... Your animosity towards such a large and diverse group of people is somewhat irrational. I really do not understand, first you advise me to post there and now that I have done so, you do what you can to undermine the whole exercise...

Put it another way, Romy, please tell me what drivers costing up to a $10,000 a unit will do as good a job in a pair of 115Hz horns as the Fane 8Ms? I don't think you have an answer or we would know about it already.

Best regards
Rakesh

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