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Post Subject: It is not about the honk noise but honk fog.Posted by Romy the Cat on: 12/22/2010
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zanon wrote: |
My question is this -- in playback, how do you limit horn honk to just brass when there is no way to separate the instruments playing in an ensemble? Honk from strings for example sounds like crap. |
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You ask me as if I have claimed some success and state that I have done it. what you ask is the most complicated thing. I agree that honk (most of the time) on strings sounds like crap, honk on any percussion instruments sounds even worse. Ironically the horn on organ sounds excellent. That why I think that the key are in very high precession injection but in a way that would not color the rest of sound. My honky metal horn that I throw into mix sometime I use on the music like Arthur Wills’ The Vikings or most of the recording before 1953, where sound was a bit naturally honky itself in m view.
BTW, I personally am not a big fun of brass only music but if to go for it then I do prefer a very mind touch of semi-original honk. I do not call it “mind touch of honk” but rather I call it “smoky sound”. If that “smoky” sound played with enthusiasm then it might be a truly phenomenal thing. Pretend the Slavic Farewell played by 200 payers and you are just in front of them - it kicks your socks off, literally. I do not know if you know the work, I was trying to find a good performance of the “Farewell” but there are none that I liked. Here is a crapy one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XywSEhJ1mI
zanon wrote: |
There are many wonderful wonderful effects you can get from mass of horns. Tchaikovsky is a good example. I am also partial (sometimes) to Copeland where the mass of brass rips the very air apart. It is a wonderful sound when you are in the mood for it. |
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Actually the person who for me is an ultimate horn user is Richard Strauss - Strauss is an encyclopedia of horn sound! Going back to audio – I do think that it is possible. It is very hard if any possible to make a channel what would have all necessary things in one single cone. Still, with a dedicated honk channels is might be double. What we need is just need a prime that will set some kind of propoer insertion algorithm. BTW, to have special honk on brass is just a fraction of objectives. The most wonderful thing that the presence of mild honky fog does to woodwinds. That honky fog impacts woodwinds like colors accelerator. I love that Cognac smelling woodwinds…My Injection Channel does colors very well but it does nothing in honky direction. I need to look into it….
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