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In the Thread: Romy The Cat's new Listening Room
Post Subject: Cats life ?Posted by unicon on: 10/13/2010
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 Romy the Cat wrote:

Tube traps are mistakably designed as they tend to deal with a very erroneous assertion that it is possible to feel a listening room with some kind of confused and random bass and then to correct the things with tube traps. Why I say “confused and random bass”? Because this is what 99.9% people get from their standalone, off-the-self speaker with a woofer at the bottom inserted in a random room. Yes, the tube traps do deal with anomalies in the room but by doing it the very much obliterate very fragile and very delicate texture of bass. They kind if insert a very fine file of oil on surface of bass water, eating up all micro dymick of bass.  The bass become less problematic but also less impactful and less expressive. It cuts a listener skin like a dull knife – you feel that something is trying to slice you skin but you see no blood. This is very unpleasant feeling. I think the problem that tube traps has is that they are trying to do for bass and I think this is a mistake. The tube traps are super good HF consumers and this is where they need to be.

Remind you that tube traps use the fact the sound in a room create excessive pressure. The tube traps, being sealed, experience the pressure difference between the inside and outside the tube. So, it creates a “wind” from outside of the tube in order to close the low pressure zone inside of the tube. The “wind” blows across fiberglass that “eats” energy of the pressure wave. The larger tubes that lower LF will be eaten. So how to make the tube trap to eat HF but do not touch LF. Here is what I fill my des would work better – the sliced tube trap. What I think need to be done is to slice the tube trap on individual segments and make each segment to act differently. By the fact that segments are small they will not hurt LF. For HF they will act not only as consumer of HF but as smart consumer.ontinue to make experiments as the forth with witch fiberglass eats HF is very commendable. Rgs, Romy the Cat



Roman ,
It is interesting to see you using your pipe in room.
You mentioned its wrong to use them as LF consumer.
You got it somehow wrong
1-sealed tube traps can absorb LF and yet again absorb all HF in the same time...
2- the problematic sound that you experienced like cutting your white skin with knife is all made by your wrongly used method .it is due to the unwanted vibration of fiber glass pipes .

sealed tube traps can be implemented the way to not absorb LF easy and just in case the pressure gets over high and they can yet to be remain fully customized to absorb and diffuse what you want them for .

I am not  entering the subject that many like the room to sound much bigger and like the room sound.

I honestly suggest to use the ASC made tube traps or just simply borrow some and experience with them.

PS: btw in your last pic of your room with pipe fiberglass they just look like asc tube traps .. or are they just them ?

Regardz
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