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Rakesh, before everything: you use MS Word to type messages and it has some strange styling formatting that My Word cleaning server scrip cannot clean. As the result your posts screw formatting of my site. I was trying to research what style items are guilty but I did not find it right the way and I do not have time nowadays for deeper anises. So, it would greatly be useful if you in future paste your post from ASCII editor. Alternatively, after you paste your text from MS Word to my text box you might use a button “Clean MS Word HTML” on the right of the reply toolbar (it was a big blue “W”). That shall kill all your “odd” formatting and then you might “paint” the text with my editor tools.

oxric wrote:

As I said, I never intended to be the advocate of the devil. Now that this thread seemed to have resolved that the Shroder tonearm is either over-hyped, or at any rate that its  manufacturer is beneath contempt because of his association with OMA, it seems people have moved on to a much wider ranging issue.

Rakesh, not one say, at least I did not say, that Shroder tonearm over-hyped. What I insists that the people who sell them in US are not only known to be the over-hype providers but they has no other skills or qualification then hype management.  I hope you recognize the difference.

oxric wrote:

By the way, for the sake of fairness, and to avoid ambiguity, I would like to say that my unqualified view is that Frank Shroder should stand or fall on the basis of the merits or demerits of his tonearms, not his business associations, unless Mr. Weiss is, and it is clear that this is the case, so beneath the acceptable norms that no one in their right mind or with a modicum of decency should associate with him.

Why who cares about Frank Shroder? This thread is not judgment over him, and I do not think he shall care about anybody makes any judgment. This thread turned out to be into my rejection of anything Frank Shroder does or say JUST BECAUSE his association with Jonathan Weiss. You deny my right to walk out of room and loose my interest if I see let say Nazi swastika of KKK hood? Why you deny my rights to behave the same if I feel the stench of the Weiss-ness? (Again, do not behave like a infant, it has absolutely nothing to do with Frank Shroder being German, like Germany and have no problem with Germans.)

oxric wrote:

Since this thread has moved somewhat from its initial heading, I would think that the topic now under 'scrutiny', that is the duplicitous nature of all discussion surrounding hyped products, would seem to merit its own thread. I agree with some of the views stated above, but not in the absolute terms in which they are put.

The absolute term? Oxric, are you under impression that a normal person would be searching the absolute term in this (or any other) site? absolute terms are the subject of fulfillment of own requirement and it might not be found outside…

oxric wrote:

If anyone has a burning desire to know what I envisage as my next blind purchase – it would be the OPPO 83SE to use as a source in my home cinema system (they are not represented in the UK), and possibly the SME312s to compare to my current previous generation SMEs. This will be in the summer when I have completed a couple of property purchases in the next few months with a view to moving to France permanently or semi-permanently someday. In some ways, Romy, your present circumstances mirror mine although we differ so much in our views, attitudes and pretty much everything else I imagine.

Rakesh, I have completely different approach to “tonearms purchasing”, or to the purchasing of any new audio. Pay attention that I asked Frank Schroder only one question and he gave quote foolish answer, ironically the very same answers that Weiss would give. This did not escape my attention even if I did not comment on it.

oxric wrote:

For about a year now, I have been preparing for the possibility that I may decide to move at some point in time. My approach has been somewhat different to that advocated at a number of places in the relevant thread, based on past experience with movers. Since that thread has now moved on, and this one is rambling aimlessly, I will include my advice here about moving companies and movers – never trust them, as it is enough for a rogue element to be present for the worst to happen. I have dedicated custom, heavily padded, boxes, some with secure individual compartments for delicate  accessories etc. made for everything that I want to keep long-term. These boxes are made here on the premises and will withstand the rigours of travel. Some of them have industrial strength lockable caster wheels to facilitate movement of rather heavy equipment. I use reliable people I trust, who know me and my equipment well, to become movers for a day when it comes to moving all the delicate and vulnerable components/stuff. The boxes are sturdy but can be completely dismantled when not in use. In this way, I know I will be ready to move easily, and again as and when the need arises. This plan has now been in motion for about 5 months and is about 70-80% complete I would say.

Thanks, I have devised a very good in my view moving strategy and have find good movers that I feel comfortable. I will report the results in the appropriate there after they move me and will bend all my tonearms…

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