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In the Forum: Analog Playback
In the Thread: Schroder Tonearms
Post Subject: Of course I disagree.Posted by Romy the Cat on: 2/11/2010
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 oxric wrote:
Romy, I am not too sure you understood me at all! Celebrating yourself? That’s not strength of conviction, that suspiciously rankles of self-idolatry and we know where this strong belief in oneself led Hitler, and for that matter, Keyser Soze. Of course, one can admire the implacable sense of purpose of the powerful in their various guises, whether the Keyser Soze of Singer’s hit, or the God of the Old Testament, but it is not the way we should treat others just on the basis of who they associate with. 
I think you took a wrong accent. My view on the “strength of conviction” is not about declaration of character but about the demonstration of the worth of this pathetic Weiss-noise target. Let me give you an association. You walked into a room of an audio show and see a room host wearing let say Nazi’s swastika. I presume that we all understand that people are entitled to wear Nazi’s swastika if it make them happy. But I hope you would not deny my right to walk out of the room without giving damn how the room sounded? The very same with Schroder Tonearms. By associated own business with the Weiss operation Frank publicly declared that he cooperates with the dirtiest scams in audio. Is it an accident of pattern? You decide. 
 oxric wrote:
Obviously, it goes without saying that somewhere along the way, we need to draw a line. If my best friend decides to become a paid up member of the British National Front, his mere association would test the bounds of our friendship, unless this was motivated by some more noble motive, say academic research.

I have not heard anything about Mr. Weiss that suggests that he is such a nefarious character that using him as a distributor (a glorified shopkeeper if I may say so) automatically disqualifies one from being treated with civility, especially when the person goes out of his way to address some of the misconceptions that this thread was being riddled with. I thought you were trying to objectively discuss the merits or demerits of the Shroder approach, at the beginning of the thread anyway, not set up a trap to lure him here, and heap a truckload of garbage on a discussion that I for one, enjoyed and found enlightening until that point.

Again, disagree. I was trying to think about Schroder tonearms as long it made sense to talk without having the arm. I said what I feel need to be said. Was it accurate or not I do not know, they were my view, or as Frank called it “opinion instead of fact.” However, Mr. Schroder feels that his opinions are facts. There is a little deductive reasoning behind Schroder’s facts: Mr. Schroder invested own US distribution to Oswalds Mill.  The expertise, understanding and the actual Sound that Jonathan Weiss is capable off has become the representation of what Mr. Schroder dies, his face and his respect to sonic reference points. Is it possible that behind that Frank’s “technical literature” there is an absolute ignorance about needs of Sound? I would not speculate, I do not know Frank Schroder personally and the only circumstantial evidence I have is the Frank’s association with Weiss – it is enough! Leaving aside the Weiss’ frightened human qualifications and Weiss’s audio agenda the only fact that Mr. Schroder supports Weiss’ made me very question if Mr. Schroder’s talks have  any worthy practical attention. What Frank found himself is not just “quilt by association” but it rather a declaration of own reference points and it is a lot for the people of my self-idolatry level. Do not forget, Rakeshv, we in audio do not manufacture tonearms or turntables - we manufacture Sound.  Where Frank Schroder flyers in terms of Sound is hard to say without knowing him but a person who in a bed with Oswalds Mill have blown opportunity to have second first appearance.

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