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In the Forum: Horn-Loaded Speakers
In the Thread: Vitavox’s S2 Survival Guide.
Post Subject: OK, I will try it.Posted by Romy the Cat on: 8/2/2005

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 Bud wrote:
First thing I would try is a single dot of Elmer's White Glue applied in the exact center of the dome, on the outside. The dot would be the size of a round wooden toothpick, cut off at the beginning of the taper. Dipped in the glue, the end of the toothpick will form a bubble of the exact size needed. This stuff is removable, with alcohol as the solvent. The commercial name is Poly Vinyl Acrylic or PVA.

If this addresses most of the problem apply a dot on the inside of the dome in the center. These dots will remain slightly visco-elastic, essentially forever, and will exhibit their final properties after about eight hours drying time. This dot should affect the hemispherical ringing of symmetrical, odd order modes. These are unnatural sounds, mostly providing a hiss to all other natural, asymmetrical sounds that occur within the various frequency ranges that excite the even order symmetrical hiss.

If this is all mostly satisfactory but you notice a slightly latent character to the transients, a small circle of MicroScale Gloss Paint from your local railroad hobby store, applied over the dot and in a radius about 3 to 4 mm around the dot, with a small, fine haired, well drained brush will repair the transients without allowing the symmetrical standing waves to reform. You can also apply a 3 to 4 mm wide band of this stuff on the suspension of the dome, right at the outer perimeter of the free material, before it enters whatever form of clamp is used.

If none of the above works you are doomed. Even my full treatment is not enough to completely remove the metallic scrape that a metal dome can apply to sounds. But, these are the horrid metal domed tweeters found in some inexpensive direct radiator systems... like the ones in my Buick!!!!!


Hm, sadistic was it or not but I might try it. I was thinking something similar – to apply a very thin and very light layer of gluee, perpetually viscose substance and to see what will happen. The only concern I have that PVA will be too heavy, but from a different prospective I drive S2 an octave above what it designed for. So a minor drop of Fs and a minor deepening of exertion might not be too problematic, so I hope…

Bud, it is interesting that you mentioned the “horrid metal domed tweeters found in some inexpensive direct radiator systems”. I know exactly what you mean but the sound the produce is quite different then what S2 does. What S2 (with original metal diaphragm) does is even quite different from what those distance-centric titanium-inverted domes do in Utopias and Wilsons. The inverted domes, along with their over 30K resonancees, produce very clean auditable HF but they produce the “harshness of space”, that is quite devastating characteristic of entire sound. The S2 has very different dome, an in addition it a phase-plagued compression driver with own metal suspension:

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Commerce/SaleImages/S2_Diaphragms.jpg

The S2 metal diaphragm “issues” sounds very different to my ear. It more like a sort of caramel or honey sound that become sweeten with each Hz at geometric progression somewhere above 10kHz and at 12-13kH that arrives with something remotely reminding a spoiled or rusty tone. It has a feeling of late autumn air, filed with the smell of burned tarnished foliage, early freeze and dominating yellowness…

Rgs,
Romy the caT

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