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In the Forum: Analog Playback
In the Thread: Schroder Tonearms
Post Subject: Schröder, Walker and a weekend with BerniePosted by Romy the Cat on: 12/16/2009
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 Paul S wrote:
Frank himself will often cut in at this point to head off most of the speculative nonsense.  Not to co- opt him here, but I find it interesting that most of the Schroder arms (sorry, no umlaut...) are particularly subject to VTF changes with minimal changes in VTA/height [adjustment].  OTOH, if one simply must have a VTF system that considers warped records, then Frank will - for substantial extra cash - conture the magnets to give enough "range" of +/- accurate  VTF to allow for some warping.

Absolutely disagree. Why one must have a VTF system that considers warped records? There are no systems in existence that would maintain proper stale VTF when VTA is changed. There are some solutions that apply parabolic VTF force and they can to a degree compensate the VTF while VTA is dynamically changed. However, the efforts to construct a mechanism of none-linear VTF application in most cases defeat the benefiters of VTF stabilization while VTA is change. Do not forget that we construct a whole new FTV mechanism ONLY to play of shitty warped records that shall not be played to begin with. Do you think it worth it? I feel categorically negative about it.

 Paul S wrote:
As for "the reference path to ground", most arms have several "paths to ground".  So they must be better than good...

It is incorrect. I do not talk about path to ground in electrical terms.

 Paul S wrote:
The main thing for a tonearm to do is to help the cartridge to do its job... and nothing else.  I can think of a couple of arms from each of several designs that might work with a  given cartridge on the right TT.  The rest will have sonic signatures that speak over any and every cartridge used with them.

I think that I would step to anti-Schroder path and would propose that the main thing for a tonearm is to furnish best and STABLE operating condition for a cartridge. A moderation and flexibility of operational parameters during performing of servile is not good thing to have. Take for instance the old Micro turntables. They have own default sound and it is absolutely imposable to change it.  You can place in atop of your bedroom pillows and cover the TT with 3 inch of pigeon shit – the TT still will, play records and demonstrate stunning integrity in sound. I know Micro TT very well but I have no idea what change I can do to make them to sound different – there is just no way to do it- intentionally or accidently.  Then take for instance the Walker Turntables. They are sophisticatedly made but here is what the idiocy of Walker’s hi-fi thinking manifest itself in full throttle. The Walker Turntables have 30374 billion adjustments and each adjustment changes the why how the TT sounds. This is incredibly idiotic notion and an indication not engineering but the amateurism in its worse manifestation.  If what Bernie report is true (and it shall be true if the arm is too much suspended) then what Schröder arms does I finds very annoying (from usability perspective) and very faulty from deign perspective. The only justification for it might be if the arm have own advanced sound in such of operation, but I can’t judge it. Well, considering that is distributed by Oswald’s asshole I actually can judge. I think Mr. Schröder shall have another distribution avenue on south: the Alabama office of Ku Klux Klan would be an excellent chose for Schröder destitution, and then you can ask my back audio folks what they think about the Schröder sound.

 Paul S wrote:
I don't travel in these circles now, but I suspect that the top end version of this arm, with a heavy wood wand, the "contured magnet", and the "damping option", will work "fine" with a the "right" cartridge.

It is very hard  to predicted how the arm sound. I have no interest to think about Schröder arm but since this conversation is lasting I will abstract into a dedicated thread

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