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In the Forum: Musical Discussions
In the Thread: Aimez-vous Bartók?
Post Subject: Generalizations and composeresPosted by Axel on: 8/12/2009
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My original post asked: "Do you love Bartók?" - maybe you'd missed that?

It was eluding to the famous novel's title by F. Sagan. Bartók's concert was just one of his compositions I'd listened too when writing the OP.
Your response indicated to me that you don't - and mine that I have some problem with Brahms’ music.
Of course these are all "generalizations"!  Would you suggest to go over every movement and detail of a composer's work so as to “non-generalize”?

If you listen to Bartók's Violin Sonatas 1. & 2. or his Violin Concertos 1. & 2., etc., he will ALWAYS have this very ~ different sound. Very diffuse, internalized, dissonant, etc.

If listening to Brahms (his 'serious' music) Concertos, Symphonies, and on - he has his own distinguishable sound. There is a sense, when listening to his serious music, that he was always TRYING TOO HARD, and so does Bruckner by the way, TTH -> also trying to hard.

I NEVER EVER, would get this impression with e.g. Mozart, or Beethoven. They seemed to put it on paper once it was clear in their mind - AND THAT WAS IT. (and it shows in the music). They were absolute Masters, no fumbling and patching and fixing required, they worked hard OK, but I never get this cramped sense of ‘trying too hard’.

Once again there is some element of generalization here. If asked: Do you love Life? Would you then suggest to give a minute by minute rendering? That’s absurd.

Axel

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