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In the Thread: Impressions from High End 2009 GERMANY
Post Subject: Germany: a few interesting points.Posted by Romy the Cat on: 6/10/2009
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 Stitch wrote: |
| What we saw and it amazed us, is the huge increase in pricing… |
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The Hi-Fi is boutique products and it is customary to sell it for boutique prices. I am sure the economy also “helps”.
| Stitch wrote: |
| Turntables most more than 6k, around 30 units between 10 and 30k Euros, around 12 units between 30k and 50.000 Euros, but no suspension, no vacuum, no material mix for resonance control, cheap bearings, wood Arm boards (glossy painted to look expensive)...... |
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.. and a turntable itself become a boutique item. From a different perspective if all of those “funny” turntables have price tag of 10 and 30k Euros then how much shell cost the EMT927 of Micro 8000? 100K, 150K?
| Stitch wrote: |
| Latest super idea: Multiple motors for Turntable (when 1 is not good enough, 3 will do the job....probably not...3x average is still average...) |
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I am familiar with the argument for multiple motors. The AN’s Peter Qvortrup once argue this subject with me - I do not buy it. It is not difficult to justify the 3 motors in term of logic but it is as easier to bring contra-arguments. Interesting the while those discussion are going on no one talks about Sound of those solutions. I personally feel that multi-motor is celebration of opportunities over common sense.
| Stitch wrote: |
| But nothing new from Ideas to push the curtain...to raise a performance... |
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Yes, this is the key. Still it sometimes happens.
| Stitch wrote: |
| Some write, that it cannot sound good in such rooms, I think, that is totally wrong. |
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This is very interesting point. I also feel that it totally wrong but good sound is not a commodity of audio industry. The audio industry is a PROMISE of better sound and this does not require any prove. To delivery of the prove is a way defet the purpose to sell a promise…
| Stitch wrote: |
| Most is crap and sound like crap in every area, at home or there. And journalists will support this nonsense, because they don’t know it better and are not interested in that, they get their money from ads not from customers…. |
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You are saying that in Germany you guys have the US-type (or vice-versa) hi-fi circulation pattern: the manufactures deploy products to audio media for further propelling and distribution?
| Stitch wrote: |
| There was a parallel exhibition in a Hotel 6 mls away, at The Flemings, there were a few Manufacturers who didn‘t want to spend that much money at the regular High End Show |
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I was told that you guys have some local people in Berlin who rent schools for weekend and build in there the “demo rooms”. Do they have interesting result?
One more, We generally recognize the sound or German orchestras as different then sound of US orchestras. I wonder if THIS is somehow get transparency in audio?
Rgs, The Cat
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